01:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] damn, i got hooked on the carlo wood vulkan thing, but then it turns out hes an anti vaxx and is shilling some 55 minute video about it in the description of every video 07:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] windows epoch starts 10000BC?? 07:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] 100ns into 64 bit counters adds up to 58k years 08:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] this fixed it! 09:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] Now just gotta test audio and i think i got a usable gentoo desktop 09:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] Without systems :monkalaugh: 09:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] Without systemsd :monkalaugh: 09:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] Without systemd :monkalaugh: 09:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] There is a futher max, FILETIME values can't be larger than 0x8000000000000000 11:01 <+ChillerDragon> lmao i just found the most cursed way to share github commits https://github.com/sirius1242/ddnet/tree-commit/e0f59cd454b5f8a6a0a16ad530a1ac918cdf7c42 11:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 do u recommend using a experimental kernel with gentoo? 11:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] I want 5.17 which has support for znver3 march when compiling 11:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] I want 5.17 for the amd p state driver and experimental for support for znver3 march when compiling 11:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Ryzen 11:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] (the kernel itself) 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well, the only issue with an unstable kernel is that it's not as well tested, but they usually work 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hello 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well on arch i used thebl bleeding edge 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hi 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well give it a go, I doubt you'll have any issues 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have modern hardware and no wifi 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think ill benefit from a modern kernep 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] Stupid Mobile 12:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] I ran unstable for a long time on my laptop and only once had a panic 12:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think 6.0 is out, no? 12:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ye 12:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] But there was an issue with a intel driver 12:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] It could break the intel gpus? Xd 12:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] Anyway i dont use intel 12:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh it could break ur monitor lmao 12:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.techspot.com/news/96204-linux-kernel-51912-can-damage-intel-laptop-lcds.html 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] afaik that was simply a "we can imagine it breaking a monitor in the worst case, but no one actually reported that" 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] > Released for most major distros this week, Linux Kernel 6.0 supports the newest hardware architectures, including Raptor Lake, Meteor Lake, Arc Alchemist, and RDNA 3. It also marks a start for the operating system's entrance into Arm by introducing support for the Arm-based Qualcomm Snapdragon laptops. Furthermore, the new kernel fixes a vestigial 20-year-old workaround that slows down recent AMD processors. 12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] I guess xd 12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] Huh, linux didnt have arm support before 6.0? I find thay hard to believe 12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Apparently its a real thing 12:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] For arm laptops 12:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] my phone is arm, it runs some linux fork 12:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] Lenovo x13 12:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] I doubt google patched linux to support arm for my phone 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/102232 ← finally, `std::hint::black_box` stabilized 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] this is useful in writing benchmark code to make sure constants aren't optimized out 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] Nice 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] I always use criterion and it had one already tho 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] Criterion is rly nice 20:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] yay new fork only to disable voxelations kekw 20:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] everyone LOVES me 20:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] ask russians tho 20:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] fr though do people hate the update THAT much 20:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] yup 20:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] :cammo: 20:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] they will stay on older version only cuz they can't play with these animations 20:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] please direct the hate at me 20:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] @gerdoe even tho i personally not against it, but did they try the latest nightly? 20:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's the heinrich5991-no-options guy 20:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] @gerdoe even tho i personally not against an option, but did they try the latest nightly? 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] what exactly do u mean? did they ever play with voxelations? 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] i have to say since the update running looks better than fast walking 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] no, last night was an update 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] naah bro there's another thing 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] should be in the current nightly 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] i made it look better in nightly 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] it blurs ur eye when u play on fng race or another fast going mod 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] and see animations 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] and like 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf happening 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] i kind of made it less distracting with this new update, turns out making the body bounce less does wonders 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] i'll ask them to try it out but i don't think that they change their minds 20:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] they should look when u walk fast vs when u run slow 20:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] why btw? 20:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] because options are an open-source disease 20:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] instead of providing sensible defaults, we put everything behind an option. additionally, they're maintenance overhead 20:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you want to refactor something, you have to look at every affected option to see if it still works. if you add another option, you have to make sure it plays well with all other options 20:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] its not problem of only open-source 20:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] its disease of snowball updating 20:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] if u want to add new feature this feature should be incapsulated as much as it can to 20:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] imo the problem is a bit different 20:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] 20:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] We don't provide a clean API which you can build e.g. new animations based on that could disabled by simply disabling the code path (e.g. by a modding API) 20:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] 20:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] Also look at minecraft. 100 mods works somehow together. it needs a clean code flow. What we currently do is, put everything in place which bloats the code and makes it less readable and harder to test 20:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] and you can just say "hey guys defaults work better than custom settings, u should be careful with it" 20:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] that doesn't work. we'll get bug reports even with custom settings 20:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, an API to build upon would also be nice 20:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] so u want to give players white box and force them to play with it 20:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] even if they wanted black sphere 20:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, basically. people like you can even compile their own ddnet if it bugs them so much 20:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] as i can 20:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] u can even use github actions ^^ 20:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] but not majority of non-ddr players that play with ddnet client 20:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] yooo imagine ddnet code could support actual mods 20:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] its old problem that we had back then 20:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmm what client to play with 20:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, you can help them. or you could maybe ask the Tater guy to add an option for it 20:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] in his client 20:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] ddnet code is not clean anyway 20:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] you will delete another options too? 20:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] if it's sensible, sure 20:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] its not that moment when you can say its pure core 20:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] teeworlds pure core 20:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] someone someday will make the code much better to handle 20:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah waiting for scalable rusty tw server 20:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] or teesharp 20:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] that would do little for the client 20:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] yup 20:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] but then u can go along with client 20:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] then let them stay 20:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] nobody is forcing them 21:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] we cant support old versions forever xD 21:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] same with old hardware it blocks all progress 21:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] 21:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] DDNet has to conquer the world, it needs more power 21:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] I disagree with the hardware bit ^^ 21:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] well just bcs 5 ppl would be dropped 21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, five real users 21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] but lets face it, 15years of hardware support is stupid 21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] why? why should hardware be replaced if it works perfectly fine? 21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] it doesnt work perfectly fine 21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] it doesnt run on vulkan 21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] it has no shader support 21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] it does, it just doesn't support the new fancy thing that the programmer wants 21:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] but it supports all ddnet needs 21:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] i disagree with that 21:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] it supports what u think ddnet needs 21:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] with which part? 21:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think ddnet could evolve much quicker if we wouldnt be stuck since 5 years 21:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes lets use c++23 pls 21:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] i need std::expect and std::option to do rust-like programming in c++ 21:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] we also use more and more multithreading, old hardware struggles with that too 21:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] well i think 3-4 years is totally fine, but yeah lets go all in 21:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] we plan to use c++20 next year already 21:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] it makes no sense to stay on outdated linux kernels 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] ur hardware suppoirts modern kernels 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] use a modern distro 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] with modern gcc 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] or clang 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] it seems we're arguing about different things 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] no im just adding to the things 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] one is hardware support, and one is compiler support 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] these are entirely different things 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can have a new compiler and still support old machines 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] but related to moving out of outdated stuff 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] old hardware uses more energy for doing less 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Not Keks using python uses more energy for doing less too 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] see 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] and vulkan uses less energy for doing more 21:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] got some numbers to back that up? 21:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] the last part 21:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] more fps = more efficient 21:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 do u know why my xcursor icon changes on everything but firefox? 21:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah, then we have different opinions on what's "doing more" 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15k fps is stupid but there's no good alternative because there's no good API to find out when the screen is changing stuff 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] 15k fps is firstly lot of fps 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's clearly a waste of energy, but there's no good way to avoid it without changing the output 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] because the APIs aren't there 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Not Keks i have a problem with your name 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] i can't type it in latex 😢 21:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] and i bet my pc runs 15k fps with less energy than a gamer computer runs at 1k fps from 15 years ago 21:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] but I don't run at 1 k fps 21:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice sounds like a feature 21:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] I run at 60 fps, and I probably don't have a "gamer pc" 21:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] if you don't want to appear in my acknowledgements 😄 21:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, and u are probably not taking this game serious enough that i'd consider you a "pro" 21:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] no hate 21:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] but then most people aren't pros, I guess? 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] ```latex 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] One last thought for the online people who helped me relax after a hard day of work. Special thanks to \textbf{deen} who maintained \href{https://ddnet.org}{DDNet} tirelessly for almost 10 years now. Thanks to the \emph{old} guys team for the games on fridays or saturdays evening: \textbf{|Ŗaþŧurę|} (you will survive), \textbf{Sir Skeleton} (where are you?), \textbf{Sir Kruksic} (who are you?), \textbf{Kasia} (Weedo is alive), \textbf{My 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] star doesn't compile 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] but there are lot of pros, and pros stay 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] additction kicks in hard 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh getting acknowledged for helping you relax 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats dope 21:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] i havent even done anything for you xDD 21:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Voxel poggers the newcomer 21:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] anyway @heinrich5991 i can surely understand that it sucks to drop ppl 21:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] 21:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] the question is, how long... there is always one troll staying on windows xp with his 1990 pc 21:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] imo it's insane to support them forever, just bcs we could 21:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh, my arch linux installation became 10 years old a month ago 🎂 21:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] :BASED: 21:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] you fixed 64 bit windows version to use graphic card with vulkan 21:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay, i think i found a replacement: \ding{74} 21:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] ^^ 21:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] pog firmware 21:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1029111911163367525/unknown.png 21:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] now rewrite for ryoos 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Not Keks i need to fix ryoos 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] it crashes sadge 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] and first i would need to write a usb driver 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] but usb spec is insane long 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] i cant imagine a gpu xd 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah sounds annoying 21:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] start with GPU instead 21:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://helix-editor.com/ 21:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] im gonna try this 21:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] where is mouse support 21:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] i didnt play teeworlds for 10 years to not use my aim 21:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] but dude the video is cool, its selectable xD 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] fixed your name 🙂 21:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] n1 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] >adding new "wow"-feature 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] >two-sided feedback 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] >doesn't elaborate further 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] :troll: 21:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] troll community - troll devs :troll: 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] code for ŧ 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] ```latex 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] \newcommand{\tstroke}{\={}} 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] \usepackage{newunicodechar,relsize} 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] \newunicodechar{ŧ}{\texttstroke} 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] \DeclareRobustCommand{\texttstroke}{% 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] \leavevmode 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] \vbox{\offinterlineskip 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] \sbox0{\larger[-1]\kern-.05em\tstroke}% 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] \ialign{% 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] \hfil##\hfil\cr 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] {\larger[-1]\kern-.05em\tstroke}\cr 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] \noalign{\kern-\ht0 \kern-.7ex} 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] t\cr 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] }% 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] }% 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] } 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1029113588666880030/unknown.png 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] lmao, i hope the printer dies when trying to print these 21:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] why though? 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] hum, looks like pdf doesn't include good character when i copy paste it 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] What's this for? 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] Jupstar J 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] why J? 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] what 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] it copies to J? 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] |R , aþt̄ur ̨e| 21:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] yup 21:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol, utf8 is too hard, i always say that 21:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] rathture 21:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] learath hate in 3,2,1 21:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] Freaking weird, no? 21:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Chairn have u tried to open it in a browser? 21:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah no 21:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] upstar J, 21:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] same 21:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think it's just pdf format that doesn't support unicode 21:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] probs 21:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] like, it's letters + diacritics, not single chars 21:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] i am the most confused person anyway. we have so many formats all so different 21:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] when i copy |R, aþ ̄tur ̨e| and its t several times, it adds diacritic over some letters 21:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] but somehow it works most of the time xd 21:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] phd acknowledgements 21:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] ohhhh 21:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] someday when chairn is fame, you are too 21:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] voxel the newcomer 21:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] same problem here about unicode pdf 21:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] probs ez like that, missing fonts and stuff too annoying 21:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] i am so old, i remember the time when PDFs got fame xDD 21:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] 219 different fonts in my document 21:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] 50 if you merge them 21:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] how tall is the PDF? 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1029116120852070440/unknown.png 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] tall? or big? 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] why so many fonts 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] 176 pages for 4.2m 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] each figures has the font duplicated i think when being included 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] how many bytes 21:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] 4.2mb 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] ||BeraSansMono-Bold BeraSansMono-Oblique BeraSansMono-Roman Carlito Carlito-Bold Carlito-BoldItalic Carlito-Italic CMBX5 CMR10 CMR7 CMSS12 CMSS9 CMSSBX10 CMSSI12 CMSY10 DejaVuSans DejaVuSans-Oblique Dingbats Fourier-Alternate-Roman Fourier-Math-Extension Fourier-Math-Letters Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic Fourier-Math-Symbols LiberationSans LiberationSans-Bold LiberationSans-BoldItalic LiberationSerif name NimbusSanL-Bold NimbusSanL-BoldItal Ni 21:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] BeraSansMono-Bold BeraSansMono-Oblique BeraSansMono-Roman Carlito Carlito-Bold Carlito-BoldItalic Carlito-Italic CMBX5 CMR10 CMR7 CMSS12 CMSS9 CMSSBX10 CMSSI12 CMSY10 DejaVuSans DejaVuSans-Oblique Dingbats Fourier-Alternate-Roman Fourier-Math-Extension Fourier-Math-Letters Fourier-Math-Letters-Italic Fourier-Math-Symbols LiberationSans LiberationSans-Bold LiberationSans-BoldItalic LiberationSerif name NimbusSanL-Bold NimbusSanL-BoldItal Nimb 21:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] almost all figures are made with LaTeX 21:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think i killed the convo 😄 21:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] wall of text 21:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] no more 22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] Not quite sure what you mean, but did you set a default cursor? otherwise you'll get the X 22:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] yay i got audio working 22:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] forgot to enable some kernel settings 22:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] its funny but i think i compile the kernel faster than ddnet 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🤔 22:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] the config itself is probs already slower xD 22:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 22:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] but maybe u build the most minimal kernel ever 22:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] well i enable only what i need 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] i did that too some day 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] and then ntfs didnt work xD 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] u need to enable ntfs xd 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] since then i stopped doing that 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont enable it cuz i dont use ntfs 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, but i thought i enabled it, but appraently only read only mode 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe the driver didnt exist yet 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] until u need it 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think a rewrite is relatively new 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] and need to recompile xD 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] but its p fast xd 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] make sure to pass -j12 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] why should i limit my CPU to 12 threads 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dunno, i remeber smth like 20-30 mins, but on ryzen 1800x 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] well my cpu has 12 xd 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] it defs wasnt < 10 seconds like ddnet xd 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] i know xd 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] my kernel legit compiles under 30s 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] clean compile? 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] never xD 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] u also need amdgpu bro 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] that alone probs takes like 5mins or more 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] i have amdgpu enabled 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmm 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe its not clean 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i dont remember it taking long 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Not Keks does C code compile faster than c++ 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu?h=v6.0 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes much faster very likely 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] also much faster than rust 😛 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] i mean its c 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah rust compiles slow but cuz it checks for way more 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] its like running clang-analyzer 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] or smth 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki see, this alone is bigger than whole ddnet project D 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Ryozuki see, this alone is bigger than whole ddnet project xD 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] i got holidays starting from wednesday 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] ill have time to tweak my gentoo 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] imagine having more time and understanding all this code 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] would be soo cool 😄 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Not Keks there is a rust vtuber 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] asashi lina 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] she did the gpu driver for the m1 linux port 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah very pro 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.youtube.com/c/AsahiLina/videos 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] wtf 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] her voice sounds so pitched xD 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] is she japanese? 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oOQ0VtBxrU 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] i mean japanese are insane voice actors, they born with this talent xD 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] her vids are 8 or more hours long 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk xd 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] probs 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] i cant stand the voice either 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] and i like cute anime voices 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] cant believe she codes in kate xD 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] lmao 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] i did fng2 in notepad++ 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] ez 22:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] ez 22:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] how do I hide a stuck tooltip on X, short of killing the offending process? 22:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 try 22:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] xpropr 22:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] and click 22:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] xprop 22:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.5/doc/man/man1/xprop.1.html 22:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] that shows me the offending process 22:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] can I somehow get rid of the tooltip, without killing that process? 22:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmm idk 22:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] xkill :0.0 22:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] xkill -display :0.0 22:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] no idea if that works xd 22:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] `xkill` kills the program corresponding to a window 22:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't want to kill the process ^^ 22:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] how is it even stuck 22:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] i mean if its single threaded how do u want to kill it, without killing the process? 22:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] I just want to hide the window 22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] u playing a game and it shows some popups or what? 😄 22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's a tooltip, and it doesn't go away. in this particular case, it's a crashed program open in my debugger 22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] that tooltip obscures part of my screen 22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't want to kill the process because I want to debug it 22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] the tooltip is a little annoying though 22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] move the debugger? 22:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, that works around the problem 22:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] :D 22:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://fyrox.rs/blog/post/feature-highlights-0-28/ 22:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Not Keks pog 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice 22:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] its funny how all these AAA game engines suddenly popup xd 22:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] 22:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] o3de 22:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] godot 22:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] 500 rust game engines xd 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] rust only has bevy and fyrox 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] that stand out 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] I tried to install UE5 then I tried o3de xD. none of them worked so I went back to godot 22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think o3de only works with vulkan 22:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] never heard of o3de 22:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] its sponsored by linux foundation 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] and its from amazon xD 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] 3A games big bloat 100GB+ 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] everyone was mad that godot wasnt sponsored instead xD 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] depends which xd 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] lmao 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] they should have sponsored godot 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] baldurs gate early access is worth the 100 GByte for only arc1 xDD 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] but maybe they thought godot already got sponsors 22:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dunno the reasoning, but still funny 22:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] btw ill visit frankfurt when going to tokyo 22:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] kinda funny xd 22:46 <+bridge> [ddnet]