00:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] he cant ruin it 00:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] cuz this wont work 00:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] With no official support from ddnet, kog or teeworlds, I really don't see it succeeding. The game is niche enough that most of the players that would be interested in it are already playing in one of those 3 00:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] There is always a possibility that he builds a completely new community around it though 00:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh yeah, that's why we can't attract that many new players, we need NFTs! :greenthing: 00:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] nftCatch, capture as many players as you can but every time you get captured your stock goes down by 4% 01:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Souly 01:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] :feelsamazingman: 01:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] troll devs still gonna reject tho 01:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Possible 01:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] are there any automapper specifications out there? 01:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] if I understand correctly, Teeworlds 0.7 has json file for automappers and DDNet has its own format? 02:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] I found like three tutorials, but I thought you can add randomness into automappers and I didn't see that in those tutorials 02:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe look into existing automapper rules for like generic tiles, there must be randomness involved somewhere 02:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] true, but some sort of specification would be great 02:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.teeworlds.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=8886 02:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i wouldnt say its explained well 02:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah, it says 'outdated' just coz they went to the new format, not because things in the old format changed? 02:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] as far as i know the random feature should work the same 02:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] or at least be written the same way 02:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] thanks! 03:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm thinking, how the editor uses Tool Tips is that it's embedded inside the button code. I don't know if I should do the same to the FontIcons section since there's also an instance of it in menus.cpp within a `CONF_VIDEORECORDER` section 03:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1011804677526007818/unknown.png 08:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] We are not directly working on chain 08:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] That's what the future if there will be security issues we're just going to use the payment structure at the moment only on bsv and later on on usdc when that is integrated into the system that will be using 08:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's like having a pizzeria pizzeria is like open source right 08:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] Anyone can jump in and do the same thing but slightly different 08:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] Correct.it Is building completely New Community around it. 08:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] As long as we play and wager money on usdc all should be good 08:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] I did 08:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] New discord update on Android sux af 08:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] No native app anymore 😦 08:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] Electron 08:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] they gave up 08:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] finally 08:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] uh 08:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] "finally" 08:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] this is the worst shit ever 08:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] the native app worked perfectly 10:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] yup 10:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's so laggy 10:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] Omfg 10:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] yep 10:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] For me it works lol 10:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] I can't wait to have cfg files as customization for unique game entities 10:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] or for normal ones, so we can translate the tooltips 10:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] i knew that they will kill their native 10:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] discord sucks 10:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Buy a better phone or something, idk 10:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Just because in theory it's less optimised doesn't mean it's worse 10:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's good enough 10:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] Electron is garbage, and everyone knows it 10:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] Just mention electron anywhere and people should vomit by default 10:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] Buy a better phone, have a Samsung Galaxy S21 FE 5G, it's way powerful enough, but discord still lag shit 10:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Weird 10:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] Vscode is bad too? Lol 10:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] Electron is the issue 10:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] So what did the old app use? 10:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] Native android 10:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] And it worked well 10:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] For me it works just as good as the old one 10:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] Btw doesn't the new app use react native?? 10:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://piunikaweb.com/2022/08/23/discord-app-new-ui-or-compact-design-criticized-by-many/ 10:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] They probably didn't know about these issues lol 10:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] It seems like like they're only present on some devices 10:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] Also the new app probably only seems slower because of the new animations lol 10:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] I haven't noticed any change 10:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ok, vc buttons are laggy 10:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] And images are bugged a little 10:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] These are the only issues i noticed 10:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] So from my perspective it looks like people just dislike the new ui 11:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] How on earth is this not an oxymoron? Less optimized = less performant = worse. It's like saying "Less good doesn't mean worse" 11:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] I installed the old native one to make sure I wasn't imagining things and even just changing between servers is slower. It's a lazy port made as a cost cutting measure to unify their ios and android codebase so they can pay less engineers and outsource more 11:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] Idk 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Omg, you are right lol 12:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] It is slower 12:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] But it's not unfixable thankfully. React-Native can compile most the js into bytecode through some project I don't remember the name of. If they spend some time properly optimizing this it can be salvageable 12:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] They also need to make some native components, my older phone is suffering with the member list 12:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] “Android” 😂 12:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] Use iOS noobs 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] I won't pay apple 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] Then enjoy laggy android 12:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] :brownbear: 12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] iOS sux 12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] android doesn't lag 12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] only Electron 12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] For coding yes 12:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] I won't buy thier 20$ polishing cloth 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] And i wont buy thier cloud storage 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] Android isn't laggy, it's just modern app developers 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] And i want to be able to install any app i want on my device 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] Nobody said u should, but devices are worth of money. Anyone who says it’s not, just capping af. 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hardware itself is *mostly* om 12:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ok 12:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] But you can't even repair it 12:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] Thankfully soon you will be able to. New EU antitrust law coming up 12:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] Your device isn't even your 12:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] I had few dumb lags on brand new flagship Samsung phone, it’s obviously android. 12:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] Never had some issues on iPhone 12:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🥸 12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean obv when you have a constructor that has to manage only few devices while there's Google having to play with tons of different devices 12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Apple also artificially kills alder phones 12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Android is well optimized for all of that 12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Are u sure? XD 12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes it is 12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh we are doing anectodal evidence day. I had a dumb issue with my ipad that bricked itself brand new when I turned it on, needed a PC to reset it 12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Android isn't perfect but it's better than not owning your own phone 12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Wtf 12:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] Okay I give up 12:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] + apple giving new features 12:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] that android has since 10 years lmao 12:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] Classic android arguments 12:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🤷‍♂️ 12:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] Not my fault your n=1 study of samsung phones (which is some of the worst bloated android experiences ever) didn't impress me 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] welcome to PWA cancer 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] xd 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] Also iphones are expensive 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] They don't sell cheaper phones 12:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] Only reason why people hate it. 😝 12:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] No 12:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] Compare flagship iPhone from 2020 and Samsung flagship. 12:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah generalize so you can discard everyones arguments at once. Thanks boss 12:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] Samsung is dying 12:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] Doesn’t have a chance 12:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] Some people just don't need such an expensive phone 12:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] samsung is dying 12:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] I can’t argue with u, ur high level iq, it’s better to give up 12:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] who told you that lmao 12:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] samsung is top1 leader way in front of others 12:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] even apple is not the 1st company when it's about smartphones 12:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 that wasn’t sarcasm 12:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] Apple is for rich people who will pay apple for literally everything 12:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] Apple people have been saying android is dying for the last 15 years. It's just a common argument, never with a source 12:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] I do agree that android has freedom for doing anything u want to ur phone. But my experience with it was bad 12:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] See this is a sane argument. Why not just say this instead of sarcasm and generalizations? 12:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] + on android & many constructors you're free to do whatever you want. If tomorrow u wanna flash a custom image, you can. if you want to root your phone, you can. etc... Only limitations of Android is when it comes about supporting different types of components. Like applications such as Snapchat that takes a screenshot of the preview of the camera. 12:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] apple always tell shit 12:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] the last chip, when they said they're far more powerful than the best graphics card in the market 12:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] they are like not even reaching 50-60% of it 12:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Only good argument can be privacy, but you can't trust anybody. So you can't trust apple too 12:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] They do have a really cool chip though ngl. I wish Intel had just stuck with Arm instead of rolling the garbage that is Atom 12:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] Apple literary kills older phones. That should be enough to completely cancel them. 12:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] And I'd like to see how many people really takes care about their privacy without having instagram, facebook, tiktok etc.. 12:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ios maybe block 3rd party apps from spying on you 12:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] But apple still can spy on you 12:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] And they definitely do that 12:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] They use your phone for tracking thier air tags 12:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] This is the big idea. By preventing 3rd parties from tracking on their platform, they are effectively creating a monopoly on the metadata generated on their platform 12:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1011943179286757386/unknown.png 12:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] Tiktok logs 🤣 12:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's not like they care about your privacy at all 12:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] Each 10 secs 12:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] Android is only good for finding exploits 12:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] They just don't want others to have data from thier devices 12:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can't do anything u want with ur phone 12:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] here I can 12:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] However, google does a similar thing too with Android. In this aspect there is no solution. Under a capitalist structure of the economy profits are much more important to a company then your privacy 12:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] Iphones are more secure but it's more because you literally can do only stuff apple wants you to do 12:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] Wdym 12:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can't install all apps 12:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Only the apps apple approved 12:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] That won’t be case anymore 12:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] Cuz of EU 12:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] And that's a good thing 12:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm so proud of EU. Taming the beast that is apple 12:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] But they literally wouldn't do anything by themselves 12:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] You still wont be able to tinker with the OS though. So that's the next step. Hopefully some EU politicians will get onboard with right to repair stuff which will help 12:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ofc it's not like thier hardware is bad 12:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] I just want to own my devices 12:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] But why EU isn’t doing anything about TikTok logging data each 10 seconds for info about device location and other things? 12:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Everyone does it. That's the business model of the interweb 12:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Apple does that too btw 12:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Apple does it way less than android, atleast 3 years ago that was the case 12:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well, you can't really know 12:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Google really agressively polls your device for location and stuff 12:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] Thier os is closed source 12:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] They monitor the amount of data going to google and apple on idle devices 12:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] That's how they tested it atleast in that one paper I read 12:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] "Blackbox testing" 12:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] Android is open source lol 12:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] Sure, google collects data 12:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] But it's not on the system level 12:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean, I don know 12:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] The kernel and the core is. The tracking stuff are built into google services stuff all android phones come with, those are closed source sadly 12:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yes, you don't have to use thier services 12:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] Point is on Android. You can actually remove this stuff. Sure it'll be annoying, but you can, which is great 12:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] Having the possibility is important imo 12:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yup 12:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] And with apple you have no way of knowing what your phone is doing at all 12:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] On iOS you can't downgrade at all. On Android when Samsung pushes a patch killing my phone, I can just roll it back 12:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] OS is something you should trust 12:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] And you can't really trust anything that isn't open source 12:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] Honestly, most people don't give a shit as evidenced by macOS + Windows market share 12:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] I use windows too tbh 12:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] But i know that's not good 12:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] Windows collects data too 12:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] I only boot to windows to play some games that refuse to port or allow VMs and Wine. 12:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] I wanted to install linux 12:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] But i was scared i would delete something 12:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] And brick my pc 12:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] Lol 12:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] It wanted some boot partition or something??? 12:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] Idk 12:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] Bricking your pc is very very very unlikely, especially with a user friendly linux distro with an installer 12:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] I know 12:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] You could accidentally lose data though if you are not careful 12:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] Right 12:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] Also i wasn't sure which partitions it was going to use 12:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] If you have a windows and linux boot media on hand you can pretty much be certain that there will be a way to fix your pc even if you mess it up 12:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] Maybe someday i will install linux 12:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't have much space for it 12:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] It is much more userfriendly nowadays, so you could give it a try sometime 12:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] And idk if it's possible to install programs on other drives 12:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] problem with linux is when u have to mess with it after having corrupted files/data 12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] eg when u have a kernel panic & have to diag why 12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] I would need someone to help me lol 12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't want to delete something accidentally 12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] just install it in a VM & google 12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] google you have absolutely everything u need 12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] Vm isn't the same 12:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] it is , if yuo wanna learn it 12:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] There isn't any data to loose 12:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes then destroy it, see what happens 12:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] xD 12:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] Honestly if you want to install it alongside windows, its not a bad idea to test in a VM 12:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] Maybe if there was a way to simulate my real setup in a vm 12:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] @pilonpl wait 12:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] @pilonpl https://distrotest.net/ 12:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] try that, it's funny 12:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] ho wait 12:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] wrong websit 12:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] I usually never use installers, I just dont trust that they wont nuke my other partitions on mistake 😄 12:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Probably just paranoia on my part 12:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] bruh they removed it 😦 12:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] it was the right link, not the same website anymore 12:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] That's exactly what im afraid of 12:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can create disks and partitions and install windows before you try linux 12:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ill try that 12:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] Virtual box is slow 12:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] Honestly my paranoia is based on installers of 10 years ago. I'm sure they are much better now 12:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Probably 12:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have backups 12:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] But restoring backups is annoying too lol 12:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] @pilonpl u can try vmware workstation tho 12:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Is vmware better? 12:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think it's not open source 12:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] both works fine for small testing 12:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Virtual box is 12:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes it's not 12:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] On consumer hardware they will perform about the same if I recall correctly 12:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] They both use hardware virtualization nowadays 12:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] Qemu is the best 12:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] who needs virtualbox when you have 2 SDDs which you have Windows on one, Linux on another installed 12:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] :greenthing: 12:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have one ssd 12:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] Windows is so big lol 12:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] This is my setup too 12:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] :greenthing: pog 12:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] With that setup though the only hard part is getting the boot things right 12:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] So ill try to simulate my setup lol 12:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Cellegen | RiH who needs SSD when u can load linux into ram & hf with it 12:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Cellegen | RiH who needs SSD & virtualization when u can load linux into ram & hf with it 12:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think i still have windows image 12:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] I needed a bios extention which made booting decent, not the typical F9 into choosing which ssd to run 12:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] diskless instances :gigachad: 12:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] Btw there is a very cool android app, termux 12:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] I actually bootstrapped a netbsd installation remotely this way. Couldn't mount isos and they didnt have a netbsd image, so I wrote the netbsd install media onto the start of the harddisk and booted that into ram 😄 12:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] Its a terminal emulator 12:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have my disk be separated into two images, one of them have my windows installer :kek: 12:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have my ssd be separated into two images, one of them have my windows installer :kek: 12:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] bsd for chads 12:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] :uhoh: bruh 12:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] I actually really love FreeBSD 12:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] My very first OS other than Windows was FreeBSD 12:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's so powerful 12:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] Sadly no gfx card support is a no go for me 12:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm far too addicted to games 12:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] I understand why it's so used when it comes to networking or nas etc.. 12:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] well linux improves everytime, so ig it's better now 12:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] but still bsd was a good winner 12:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] I am addicted to ddnet lol 12:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] I only play addictive games 12:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ddnet is like crack for some people. A subset of people just cant seem to ever quit 12:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] Even tho it's not as exciting as the first hours 12:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] I still like it lol 12:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] Im addicted to Godot :gigachad: 12:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] Open source ✅ 12:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] + super flexible 12:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can write your own setup, option, classes, anything with plugins for each project. Just nice 12:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ddnet is my most played game on steam lol 12:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] And probably will become the most played game ever 12:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Minecraft is probably first 12:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Quite possible 12:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] no minecraft on Steam :cammo: 12:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Idk why this game is so good 12:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's literally a bunch of random bugs and features meant to be used in a completely different gameplay 12:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] they could implement a steam account merge and make their client more flexible towards accounts that way 12:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] java sux 12:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yup 12:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] sort of, they change performance most of the time duo to java being java 12:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] bedrock 12:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] edition 12:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] :uhoh: 12:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] Chat reporting 12:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] well it's better, performance-wise 12:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] Free capes 12:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] no, that version don't exists anymore, since the merge happened 12:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Cellegen | RiH wut 12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] u mean bedrock edition? 12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] also bs cuy bedrock had their own mechanics 12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah they merged bedrock accounts 12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes but it's still 2 different versions 12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] sort of 12:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] bedrock is written in C++ and works on many platforms 12:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] while you have the shitty java version in which you have to keep 15 different versions of java 12:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] while you have the shitty java version in which you have to keep 15 different versions of jre 12:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] Oh, also spigot is cpp aint it? 12:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] spigot is a fork of java 13:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] nvm then, looked much better, than the vanilla shit 13:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] well all variants attempts to optimize it 13:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] paperspigot is better tho 13:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] also 13:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] you won't run a good minecraft server without tuning your jre (passing arguments) 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] made a formal grammar of the automap file format bcs I intend to have syntactic coloration and errors checking, I haven't tested it tough I just made it from the source code 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] I can send it if ur interested 14:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] that would be really helpful! 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] there you go (may not be 100% perfect, as I said 🙂 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1011971626105061466/automap.md 14:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] lets do a ieee standardization for it, when rfc? ^^ 14:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] aaah suuuuure 😅 14:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] comments are a bit useless lol bcs it ignores every unrecognized lines / end of lines anyway 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm fine with being stricter than the client 14:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] nice to hear that :yes: 14:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] that would be a great addition to libtw/docs :) 14:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't think there is even a proper documentation for what the different thigns mena 14:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] for example, what is `NoLayerCopy`? 14:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] not exactly sure yet, it makes a copy of the tiles layer but what does that imply concretely no idea 14:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] hm I have never touched automappers before 😅 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] wait wth is the `NOTINDEX -1` used in `basic_freeze.rules` 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] ah it is EMPTY || FULL basically, just always 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] I would guess 14:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] whack 14:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] also whatalso what is the `NONE` in the indexlist, I can't find in any automapper files 14:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe I should start looking into the source ^^ 14:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] No flags, which is different than any flags 14:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] the code is not too complicated for the parsing at least 14:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] so NONE and ε have the same effect there? 14:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] no, ε is any, I think 14:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] aah, right 14:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] A thing that is a bit annoying I think (and confusion was discussed in #mapping ) is that XFLIP, YFLIP and ROTATE works like the map file format, but not like how the editor behave (e.g. ROTATE is clockwise, but rotating in editor is anticlockwise, and you can't use 2 ROTATE, there is no ROTATECCW etc.) 14:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think also it would maintain backwards compatibility with the current automap files if we added support for that 14:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] ... and xflip / yflip / vflip / hflip is a bit ambiguous 14:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] in the MapDir format I represented the orientation with mirror: boolean, rotate: u32 (angle) 14:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] mirror then rotate ? 14:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] yup I think 14:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's great 14:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] but ur rotate is not enum? 14:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] well it gets parsed and only allows 0, 90, 180 and 270 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmm ok, I would still have parsed to an enum bcs only 4 acceptable values 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] well it has the same effect, no? 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] its json there 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 14:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] "x": 0, 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] "y": 0, 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] "id": 1, 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] "mirrored": false, 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] "rotation": 128 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] thats a tile in the mapdir format 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] *the fields of a tile 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] 128? 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] oop, I randomly wrote that number 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] not sure what my brain did there 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] haha see 14:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] NO, cuz you can make brain farts lol 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] heh in text format you can make errors with enums and number either way :p 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] only the conversion matters 14:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] (I'd say at least) 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes actually I meant how you represent it in code, not json 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can have it represented as enum and parse from/to json as number 14:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] or whatever 14:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] well its temporarely represented as `DirTileFlags`, but that struct isn't public. the MapDir format is just directly parsed into a `TwMap` 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] #[derive(Serialize, Deserialize)] 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] pub(crate) struct DirTileFlags { 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] mirrored: bool, 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] rotation: i32, 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] } 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] ``` 14:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok then its fine 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] whatever criticism I do about twmap, you always have reasons behind it 14:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] I hope the reason also satisfies the criticism ^^ 14:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] it does 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] fucking facebook... 14:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1011980846665838672/unknown.png 14:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] who cares about social features? I just wanna have fun with my VR headset 14:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] being social is overrated, all you need is a dummy 15:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] -1 is outside the map 15:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] used for example for placing stuff along the map's edge 15:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] Btw, there was an interview with John Carmack recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I845O57ZSy4 Haven't watched all of it yet, but the beginning had some fun parts from Masters of Doom book 15:57 <+bridge> [ddnet]