00:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] its worse than that. The bored apes thing is literally nazis 00:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpH3O6mnZvw 01:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] @nuborn don't we have door prediction nowadays? 01:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] no 01:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] we have all the info, but no prediction was made 01:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] Omg, there is a server on CHN7 that has been up for 33 days 01:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's so long they didn't get the 16.2 update yet, the old hud shows 02:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] 33 days doesn't seem that long, but that means that the server never was empty for 33 days straight? 02:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] o i don't doubt NFT community is pretty correlated with white supremacists 02:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] he's not that bad tbh but by the sound of it ur memeing anyway 02:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] indeed 02:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] Not yet, no, orininally i wanted se how entity ex worked for a bit before adding anything 02:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] I'm still for replacing entitiyEx with new extended netobjects that hold all information. 02:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] Two objects for one thing plus the fact that the client has to sort them together does not sound good to me, compared to the fact that we actually have an extended netobject system 02:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] I guess it would be only for lasers first, if the new pr gets pulled 02:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] But with the recent work on making netobjects more extendible it might be a better solution in general 02:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] isnt there a multeasy server at like a year or smth 02:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] no way 😄 08:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] nfts itself are not art 08:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] they are just a link that might go down 08:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] dont fool urself 09:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] it can be other, than a picture btw and people miss that point 09:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] non fungible token != picture art 09:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] Mass produced, low quality art is still art. Also not all nfts are bored apes. But even then, likely bad to invest 09:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] The think is the nft itself is no art, since its not a picture but merely a http lini 09:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] Link 09:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] What the contents of that link are can change any time 09:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] Since thats served by a server external to the blockchain 09:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZaTd0hDtkI 09:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] this is a very good explanation 09:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] there was an nft that changed when you bought it 09:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] from a mid piece of art to literally 💩 09:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] from a mid piece of art to literally 💩 this emoji 09:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] Most nfts nowadays are referenced to images or whatever hosted on blockchain hosting sites like ipfs, so the thing about them going down or being changed isn’t an issue(unless they intentionally make it that way like voxel mentioned). I think the nft art thing is really stupid but the technology behind it is really cool, like an nft could theoretically represent ownership of anything, like the title to a car or property, or it could be 09:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] world was better without internet tho 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] ipfs is still like torrent, if a file is not seeded its gone too btw 10:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] btw does anyone have example teehistorian data? 10:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] +1 11:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] medical records on block chain, great idea xd 11:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] medical records on public block chain, great idea xd 11:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] There are ways to make it encrypted and only give keys to those who need it, it would be really useful but shit never gets updated in governments with technological advancements anyways so it would be a long time before anything like that could come about 11:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] what even is the point of being able to prove ownership over your medical records? 11:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] It’s more about ease of access, like if you go to a different hospital or one in a different country then they are able to access it, I only mentioned it bc it’s just another thing that the technology behind nfts can do 12:03 <+gerdoe> yo bros did ya see c++23 feature freeze? 12:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] what would the benefit of "putting it on a blockchain" be? 13:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] you could instead have a file, signed by your medical authority instead, that you can share with hospitals. or a link to that data hosted on government servers 13:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] The whole point of it is that it’s not owned by any one government and is a more universal thing, it’s likely the medical thing won’t come into fruition because governments like to do their own thing and not work together at that scale, but it’s the same incentive for currency not being owned/backed by any government or organization and instead just backed by code 13:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] but what's the benefit of it 'being backed by code'? 13:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean how would you even store medical records 'on the blockchain' 13:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] you likely don't want to put all the data there, because it's too expensive 13:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] so you link to it 13:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] So from the currency perspective, if the USA(my country) is in debt they can print money, but being backed by code, no one can print bitcoin 13:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] why are you talking about money? 13:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] I wasn't saying that cryptocurrencies make no sense 13:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] I was asking about uses for nfts 13:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] at that point, you might just share the link instead doing stuff 'on the blockchain' 13:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] But the sharing of the link to it is exactly what an nft is 13:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] I can also share a link without an nft 13:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] to my medical data 13:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] what value-add does the nft have in that use case? 13:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] So it’s more that everything can be done in this ecosystem -system and it is all secure 13:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] Like yes you can do it using another method 13:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] you haven't yet said *any* benefit 13:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] I can also share my medical records while playing the flute 13:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] like yes, you can do it using another method 13:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's more that everything can be done while playing the flute. and it's all more fun 😉 13:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] that is true, the flute is fun 13:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] no the flute sucks 13:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] The current things that exist on blockchain are typically in finances because ppl like money, there's 'banks' with loans and interest and all that, there's markets to trade things, but what's starting to be developed now since the hype from making money is starting to die down is actual infrastructure to move all types of data on blockchain 13:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] medical records is one thing, but the fact that we are able to securely transfer data in that way on a public blockchain is insane 13:23 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay, if medical records aren't a good example, I'm also willing to listen to any other example where nfts are useful 13:24 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean like I also said it could be ownership of anything, like the deed to your house, any valuable you have, there could be warehouses of items owned by people that could be freely traded without having to have physical possession of it, but that's about it for nft's specifically 13:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay, so you say that having 'your house' on the blockchain is a value-add? 13:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] "The NFT doesn’t convey ownership of the copyright, storage, or usage rights to the asset itself. As White explained, when someone buys an NFT, “They’ve paid to have their wallet address etched into a database alongside a pointer to something. I wouldn’t say they really ‘own’ anything at all." 13:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] This is what an NFT is, simply, that's dumb af 13:26 <+bridge> [ddnet] you could take a mortgage out on your house for example in a decentralized way 13:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] what guarantee would the holder of the nft have that it really corresponds to your house? how do you make that connection between the real and the blockchain world? 13:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] It's not about actually owning something like images, obviously you don't own the bored ape image, it could be attached to physical things and that would be real ownership but would have to be agreed upon by people and governments 13:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's the same thing as a long time ago when there was a physical paper to be a deed to the house and that would prove ownership, it's about the people and governing bodies agreeing that it has value 13:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] Also NFT's are like a really small part of the whole crypto development idk why they get so much hype 13:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean it does have a lot of value 13:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] but then the decentralization goes away 13:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] but its literally just a pointer to metadata 13:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] the government isn't likely to say that "oh yes, there was a bug in the smart contract of all the plots in this country. now the person who hacked the contract owns all of the land of germany, that's fine" 13:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] so it's still the government ruling over which trades are fine and which are not 13:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] we were talking about nfts because you said that they were useful 13:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] they are! 13:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] but what for? 13:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't see how the house example is a good one 13:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok how about a simpler example that doesnt require years of understanding from millions of people to agree on it working 13:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] have you ever played CSGO? 13:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] I did 13:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] what if you could actually own the skins 13:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] and it's not at the mercy of the game developer whether you can sell your $100 skins 13:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] you're always at the mercy of the game developers 13:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] they can just say that they don't accept your $100 skin if you sell it 13:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] you can just send it to someone else and trade like everyone else does 13:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes 13:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] but if you get trade banned then you cant 13:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] if it's on the blockchain as an nft you can 13:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] no, you can't, or at least not in a useful way 13:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] the game company says "we're not accepting the nfts currently held by @Skystrife anymore" 13:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] you still 'own' something, but it's not of value as a skin anymore 13:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] the game company is the ultimate arbiter of what happens in their game 13:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] That obviously depends on how they implement it, but you could have a game that makes it fully decentralized 13:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay, so you get your fully decentralized game 13:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] then I'm just gonna copy your skin and it looks just like yours 13:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] the only difference is the author 13:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] That's just not how it workes 13:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] works 13:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay, so you only accept nfts from a certain contract? 13:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] correct 13:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] where's the decentralization? 13:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralized_autonomous_organization 13:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] I feel like you might find this really interesting 13:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] I do at least, but the gist of it is that it is completely community run 13:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] you could make an entire game or company or whatever, then have everything done in it be governed by the users 13:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay, so we're at least very far away from it having to do anything with CS:GO, right? 13:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] obviously yeah but I mentioned csgo because i figured you were familiar with the skins and trading 13:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] everything in blockchain is still very early, so it wont be adopted for a while 13:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] The research behind it is really cool though imo 13:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't see an incentive for valve to adopt it in any case 13:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] okay, so you want to run a community-run game with skins as nfts 13:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] do more skins get added over time? 13:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] they could be yeah 13:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] similar to how skins are added to this game, people submit them and they get voted on 13:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] what happens if the skin contract has a bug? the whole game is useless? 13:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's the beauty of the DAO, there is governance and contracts can be changed based on voting 13:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh, the contract cna be changed 13:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] so any random person with some money could just come in, buy a bunch of governence tokens and destroy the game? 13:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean technically not changed more a function gets directed to a different contract but yeah 13:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] governance tokens don't have to be bought or sold they could be given based on whatever you want like for a game maybe be given based on playtime or something 13:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] the options are literally limitless 13:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] it has to be something that can be verified on the blockchain 13:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] so it's pretty limited 13:43 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't see how you could take playtime for example, unless you can only play on the blockchain 13:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean yeah there has to be servers for a game to run so that has to be centralized somewhere, but you can interact and send data to the blockchain in a lot of ways 13:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] but then it's suddenly not community-managed anymore 13:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] the people hosting the servers can unilaterally change the game 13:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] ok like 13:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] DDnet is community run right 13:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] not really? 13:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] what? 13:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] If I want to I can come up with a feature and submit a pr and if people like it it will be in the game 13:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, ultimately because it will be accepted by deen 13:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] but if deen doesn't want to have a swastika as the game's logo, it's just not gonna happen 13:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] even if the whole community is in favor of it 13:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] Yeah that's fair haha 13:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't expect that to happen 13:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] i don‘t think i‘m the only one with control, i‘d be ok with the other admins overruling me 13:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] I guess you'd stop hosting the servers if it required you to do illegal things like displaying nazi signs ^^ 13:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] What I was saying tho is that this game could have some sort of blockchain interaction if people wanted it and that could also be community managed. I don't think it would help this game but its cool to think about 13:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] but there is no democratic process. sometimes we call for a vote to see if something would be liked 13:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] more of an oligarchy I see 13:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] Blockchain interaction? 😕 13:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] I dont think it would fit this game haha 13:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] Each hammer hit goes on the bitcoin chain, 15 minute ping 13:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] lmao 13:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] anyway @heinrich5991 you may not think that there's much use to nft's or blockchain in general, but I think it's really cool but I wouldn't go and recommend people invest in crypto or NFTS, I would recommend at least ppl here(I assume have some sort of CS background) could invest in learning the technology because I do think at least in some way it will be used a lot in the future 😄 13:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] anyway @heinrich5991 you may not think that there's much use to nft's or blockchain in general, but I think it's really cool and althrough I wouldn't go and recommend people invest in crypto or NFTS, I would recommend at least ppl here(I assume have some sort of CS background) could invest in learning the technology because I do think at least in some way it will be used a lot in the future 😄 13:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think that there's not much to *nfts* in particular 13:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] anyway @heinrich5991 you may not think that there's much use to nft's or blockchain in general, but I think it's really cool and although I wouldn't go and recommend people invest in crypto or NFTS, I would recommend at least ppl here(I assume have some sort of CS background) could invest in learning the technology because I do think at least in some way it will be used a lot in the future 😄 13:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] I haven't said anything about blockchain 13:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean you are right about that, NFT's are like 2 lines of code xD 13:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think I know enough about blockchains, wanna quiz me? ^^ 13:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] I want to believe that because I know enough about it that I think nfts look useless 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] They are 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] I mean do you know about different blockchains and how they work or how NFT's work on them? 13:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] yes, I do 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] well, maybe I only know how ethereum's nfts work 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ultimately the world is centralized around governenrs, you can start playing with ur "decentralized" toys but when smth they dont like thats where it stops 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] but I guess it works similarly on other blockchains 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] Goverments* 13:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] governments* 13:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] Then you should know that what I said from the start, "the underlying technology behind NFT's is really useful" because there are tons of different things in smart contracts on Ethereum for example but also others that are built off of the NFT contracts but arent just "oh I own picture now" 13:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] sadly that's kinda true and why it will take so long for adoption 13:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] 'if you know anything about the subject matter, you'd have the same opinion as I do'? 13:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] PoW = making our current climate problem even worse btw 13:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] but there's PoS, so that's not a great argument 13:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] nonono I'm not saying that haha i'm saying that my point originally wasnt even that NFT's are good, but the tech behind them are 13:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] sadly don't have skill about blockchain, only know that irl ur in a trust system where u have to trust anybody while blockchain solves that with a proof state 13:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] There are downsides to that iirc 13:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] Actually tho in the long run it could be good 13:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] less than actual system lol 13:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] PoW caused so many solar farms to be built to run the crypto farms 13:58 <+bridge> [ddnet] One of the biggest criticisms of PoS is that it is less secure than PoW. Because PoS does not require miners to expend energy in order to participate in the consensus process, it is possible for individuals with malicious intent to take control of the network by acquiring a large number of stake tokens. 13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] I took this as saying that nfts can be useful for anything. I wanted to show how I disagree with that. I didn't talk about blockchain technology in general 13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] and now that things are transitioning to PoS and other securing measures those farms are being redistributed to respective government power grids 13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] But currentlt it runs side by side 13:59 <+bridge> [ddnet] that's completely fair 14:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] Not the most pleasant, even if you create folders, so that there are no messages, you need to create for each mod 14:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1001458867286323271/unknown.png 14:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1001458867714150550/unknown.png 14:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] it also caused a coal power plant to be continued 14:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] That happened a lot less than solar bc its a lot more expensive in the long run 14:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] [citation needed] 14:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] true 14:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] Is it a good idea to create a third console to output https/game/png/datafile messages? 14:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] it'd probably be better to make the current console's output more useful 14:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] In fact, it was only with the help of these messages that I realized that you can create a folder and put an image with the name of the mod in it, it's not very obvious, but it also clogs up almost 2 console pages. I think I need a shorter notification or output to another console, the first thing that came to mind 14:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] In fact, it was only with the help of these messages that I realized that you can create a folder and put an image with the name of the mod in it, it's not very obvious, but it also clogs up almost 2 console pages. I think need a shorter notification or output to another console, the first thing that came to mind 16:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://twitter.com/olafurw/status/1551649270356492294?t=wNSABlFhbXyFiknocvMe5g&s=19 16:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] :sue: 16:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] break the abi or go home 16:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cor3ntin.github.io/posts/abi/ 16:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] just use rust 16:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://spec.ferrocene.dev/index.html 16:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] @Learath2 16:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://ferrous-systems.com/blog/the-ferrocene-language-specification-is-here/ 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32237780 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] big news 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] > The Ferrocene Language Specification (FLS) is a document describing the Rust language. It was created by a joint effort between Ferrous Systems and AdaCore as one of the prerequisites for qualifying Ferrocene, a Rust toolchain qualified for safety-critical environments. The FLS is compiled of existing Rust documentation, but presented with a rigorous structure in order to meet the requirements of qualification. 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] > 16:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] > The FLS is not intended to be used as the normative specification of the Rust language nor is it's meant to replace the decision-making processes of the Rust project. Any difference between the FLS and the behavior of the rustc compiler is considered an error on our part and the FLS will be updated accordingly. 17:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] someone knows a map that use a color envelope on a tiles layer? 17:29 <+bridge> [ddnet] Zaiross-Gores 17:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] indeed! thx 20:01 <+bridge> [ddnet] I think "wait" command should be added for console. For example after binding [bind d "+right; wait 120; emote 3"] to console, pressing "d" will go right, wait 120 milliseconds and send emote. 20:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] no, this would allow even more powerful dummy bind 20:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] but, there is some legit bot clients, right? 20:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] "legit" and "bot client" dont go in the same sentence :D 20:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] "legit" and "bot client" cant go in the same sentence :D 20:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] idk i heard from someone and saw a bot site that say its legit 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Do you have a Bitcoin wallet or Coinbase wallet? 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can earn up to 0.06021BTC every 3 hours with your phone or PC... 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Without referrals nor registration fee... 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] If you are interested click on the link below and start earning massively 👇👇👇👇 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://t.me/+cOczZn1wgOkyMGI8 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Do you have a Bitcoin wallet or Coinbase wallet? 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] You can earn up to 0.06021BTC every 3 hours with your phone or PC... 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] Without referrals nor registration fee... 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] If you are interested click on the link below and start earning massively 👇👇👇👇 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://t.me/+cOczZn1wgOkyMGI8 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] (@bencie) 20:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] there are no legit "bot" clients 21:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's like hearing a thief saying what he's doing is legal... 21:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye he's just legally robbing a bank 22:13 <+ChillerDragon> *legit crypto scam entered the chat* 22:14 <+ChillerDragon> non irc ppl probably already got censored hrhr 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] yup 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] I hate it when my spam gets censored 23:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > A little trick to spam the spammers. 23:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > 23:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > When I find a "get X free" button on a website that then asks for my email address, I like to search 23:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > for the email of the company behind the website (sometimes it's on the legal page, or the privacy policy 23:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] > page) and I submit their email. 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] > I also make sure to check the "sign me up for the newsletter" box, to make sure the spammers get at 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] > least one of their messages. 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] > 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] > I don't really know why I do this, it seemed funny a few months ago when I started and now I do it 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] > out of habit. 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] > 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] > I now keep a list of emails from these spam sites, and subscribe them all to the various newsletters 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] > I find if I have 5 minutes. 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] haha 23:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32242581