01:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Chairn> that's weird, clang and gcc disagree on the shadowing/shadowed variables, yet they read the same headers
01:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Chairn> that should be my last one for the moment 😉
08:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i made the best skin renderer (requires firefox & only tested on linux xd)
08:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> https://aliveclan.de/ddnet/DDNet.html
08:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Uncaught TypeError: Module.printErr is not a function
08:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> try firefox developer/nightly edition
08:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ye im using that
08:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> webgpu on?
08:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/956461102919733289/unknown.png
08:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> oh webgpu is off
08:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i have
08:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> webgl.disable-angle true
08:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> webgpu true
08:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i use the same version
08:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> still same error
08:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> restarted?
08:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ok but your setup is also broken as we seen yesterday xddd
08:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> https://webglreport.com/?v=2
08:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> does this work?
08:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> my setup is fixed
08:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/956461663698173972/unknown.png
08:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> hm
08:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> it reports the wrong renderer
08:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> r9 200 series
08:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
08:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> mine too
08:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> mhh what do i do different xd
08:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> module.printerr is missing
08:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
08:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> fix it
08:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i dont have that error xD
08:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> u should have made it in rust
08:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> im sure it would work
08:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> already
08:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :greenthing:
08:58 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> it works 😉
08:59 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> Uncaught TypeError: Module.printErr is not a function
08:59 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki>     setStatus https://aliveclan.de/ddnet/DDNet.html:1288
08:59 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki>     onprogress https://aliveclan.de/ddnet/DDNet.js:119
08:59 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yeah
08:59 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> but thats bcs we have a difference in our browser
08:59 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> konqeror (kde browser) also works for me
08:59 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> dom.postMessage.sharedArrayBuffer.bypassCOOP_COEP.insecure.enabled    true
08:59 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> try that
09:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> btw
09:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> do u have webrender
09:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> enabled?
09:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> gfx.webrender.all
09:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> i got it off
09:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> me2
09:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i bet its dom.postMessage.sharedArrayBuffer.bypassCOOP_COEP.insecure.enabled
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> xd
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> gotta see, SDL2 is still a bit buggy with pthreads
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> it is
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> it worksn ow
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> well
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> nice
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> "downloading data"!
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> thats ok
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> my vps is slow
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> im playing ddnet on the browser
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> xd
09:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/956462873113157642/unknown.png
09:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yeah i disabled internet for now
09:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> u know, websockets
09:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> annoying
09:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> but best skin renderer xD
09:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> XD
09:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> dom.postMessage.sharedArrayBuffer.bypassCOOP_COEP.insecure.enabled
09:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> ths doesnt sound secure
09:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
09:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yeah just disable again
09:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i only use firefox dev edition for dev xD
09:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i wonder why konqueror works tho xD
09:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> chrome also doesnt work
09:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> chrome bad
09:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> but its nice that emscripten works so well
09:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> the code changes to ddnet are very small
09:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> https://github.com/Jupeyy/ddnet/commit/28731ed886e3f6716d3cd64e8c4115059073fa1f
09:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> pog
09:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> (if u ignore the scripts, the actual source code changes are small)
09:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> does emscripten us web workers
09:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/Web_Workers_API/Using_web_workers
09:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> for threading?
09:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
09:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yeah
09:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> nice
09:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> but without sharedarraybuffers it currently wont work
09:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> rip
09:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i think the option can stay disable when i enable `PROXY_TO_PTHREAD` but then SDL2 is broken xD
09:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i made the best skin renderer (requires firefox & only tested on linux xd)
09:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> (with dom.postMessage.sharedArrayBuffer.bypassCOOP_COEP.insecure.enabled    true) <-- disable this again after testing
09:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> https://aliveclan.de/ddnet/DDNet.html
09:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <HeSuan_hyx> wtf
10:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> @Ryozuki now it always works 😮
10:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> https://aliveclan.de/ddnet/DDNet.html
10:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> 
10:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> just had to change the apache config to send a header to disallow cross origin sharedarraybuffers 😄
10:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd nice
12:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> I have an Intel i5-6200U CPU and that should have Vulkan support https://www.techsavvy.de/prozessoren/intel_core_i5-6200u/.
12:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> I am on Arch Linux 5.16.12-arch1-1 and have installed vulkan-intel. In the nightly DDNet version I still have only OpenGL 3.0.0 to choose from. Does anyone have any idea why this is the case?
12:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> self compiled?
12:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> also isnt there atleast opengl 3.3 too?
12:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> I tested both self compiled and the binary from the PR
12:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/956519494937870336/unknown.png
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> Actually installed is opengl 4.6
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> ❯ glxinfo | grep OpenGL
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL vendor string: Intel
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 (SKL GT2)
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6 (Core Profile) Mesa 21.3.7
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL core profile extensions:
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL version string: 4.6 (Compatibility Profile) Mesa 21.3.7
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL context flags: (none)
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL profile mask: compatibility profile
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL extensions:
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 Mesa 21.3.7
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20
12:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> OpenGL ES profile extensions:
12:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <deen> nice
12:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> and have u tried to click on opengl 3.0.0?
12:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> it should open a popup
12:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> maybe we need a little popup icons like website do it, so its less confusing xDD
12:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> dropdown*
13:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> lol O.o I thought from the screenshot the list is always visible. xD yes if I click it vulkan is also visible
13:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> xd
13:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> I still only get 60 fps (no matter if vulkan or opengl) seems to be some limitation on my system. I used to have more fps, no idea what happened then. Probably a wrong configuration in my system.
13:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> turn off vsync xd
13:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> Ah I see 😄 thanks
13:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> at least above 100 fps (I have set the update rate to infinite) 😄 
13:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> 
13:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> If I just close ddnet abruptly with Alt+F4 then it takes a long time to close and I get the following output:
13:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> 
13:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> /usr/include/c++/11.2.0/bits/stl_vector.h:1045: std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::reference std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::operator[](std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::size_type) [with _Tp = std::vector<CCommandProcessorFragment_Vulkan::SRenderCommandExecuteBuffer>; _Alloc = std::allocator<std::vector<CCommandProcessorFragment_Vulkan::SRenderCommandExecuteBuffer> >; std::vector<_Tp, _Alloc>::reference = std::vector<CCommandProcessorFragment_Vulkan::SRenderComm
13:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> [1]    24548 IOT instruction (core dumped)  DDNet
13:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> 
13:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> If that was not yet known I can also look with UBSAN what that outputs.
13:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> do you do smth special?
13:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i tested stuff like that with tsan, asan etc. so its not yet known
13:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> Nope also happens If I do it not in game but in menu.
13:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Neben> Hey, why did u guys made that "Desktop fullscreen" option in the gfx_fullscreen ? Is it for mac users that were blocked without that option, or other important reasons ?
13:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> bcs multi monitor users requested a mode that doesnt minimize
13:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> windowed fullscreen e.g. is different, bcs it forces windows internal vsync
13:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> @Not Keks if one is always better than the other should we maybe merge them under the same name?
13:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> windowed fullscreen was explicitly requested
13:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/4597
13:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> its also not comparable to bordleress window that uses the fullscreen
13:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> windowed fullscreen uses Windows' dxgi component somehow(dont ask me why and how, but thats the state of art)
13:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> mh weird stuff
13:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> maybe a stacktrace for all threads can help understanding the problem
13:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> Happens even with normal close 😄 had not tried that. I will debug it later.
13:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> @Not Keks if the windowed borderless vs windowed fullscreen vs desktop fullscreen is confusing to me, I think it's overwhelming for a normal person just used to seeing "Windowed", "Windowed borderless" and "Fullscreen" in their options from other games
13:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i didnt invent windows weirdness
13:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> Could you maybe summarize all options so we can atleast document them somewhere and maybe give some guidance on best practice?
13:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i did that a few times yesterday and today
13:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> What is the option I should pick if I want what I'm used to as "Borderless" from other games?
13:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> that depends on if u want smooth fps or not
13:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> smooth fps, then desktop fullscreen
13:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> else windowed fullscreen
13:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> Can windows render above "desktop fullscreen"? That is is it suitable for IME users?
13:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> no
13:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> windowed fullscreen maybe, i cannot test it tho
13:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> lmao
13:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/956534473661481020/unknown.png
13:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> windows vm xd
13:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Smetanolub> server browser counts dummy as player,Is it intended or is it a bug?
13:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Smetanolub> like, you see serv with 8 players, but there are only 4 actually, the rest are dummys
13:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <deen> intended
13:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> @Learath2 
13:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> 
13:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> Windowed = A window that is part of the WM eco system
13:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> Borderless = A window that is either part of WM eco system, or with fullscreen resolution implementation dependent (e.g. Windows does fullscreen optimizations for screens that block the full window(might be disabled by rightclick->properties->compability->fullscreen optimizations), KDE does not allow this in borderless)
13:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> Windowed fullscreen = A special mode to allow fullscreen, but act like "Windowed"
13:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> Desktop fullscreen = use desktop video mode(this should normally act like fullscreen just without minimize). This is also nativly supported by SDL for easier window managment if you dont care to request video modes etc.
13:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> Fullscreen = exclusive fullscreen. for true gamers xdd
13:54 <+ChillerDragon> /
13:54 <+ChillerDragon> ops
13:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> rm -R /
13:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> xd
13:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <deen> Want to add those as tooltips with Ryozuki's change?
13:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yeah should probs do that 😄
14:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> Seems IMEs can only render on top of "Windowed fullscreen". Thanks for explaining them
14:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> Borderless at full desktop resolution seems to have some windows special sauce indeed which prevents things from being rendered on top of it
14:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> but at any other resolution IMEs can render on top of borderless aswell
14:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> And our IME support seems quite nice now, I'm nicely surprised 😄
14:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yeah, its kinda weird 😄
14:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> 
14:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> windows needs some way to just disable the compositors vsync, that would solve all our issues xd
14:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> nvm backspace absolutely breaks it
14:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> in menu or also ingame?
14:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> only ingame, seems a buffer is left unclean
14:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> in menu it works fine
14:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ok, then should defs fix it
14:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> other way around would be more acceptable
14:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> same issue in f1, f1 and chat are broken
14:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> menu is completely fine
14:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> I'll create an issue
14:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> we have nobody to fix it sadly
14:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> @TsFreddie will fix it :3
14:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> robyte and tsfreddie dont really seem to be intereseted
14:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> I might give it a go myself if no one wants it
14:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> nice
14:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> Maybe an issue with text input length not matching actually, anyway, I'll leave it up for a bit see if maybe any of our resident IME people take it up 😄
14:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> hehe
14:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> Also seems we misreport the position of our text box, but I bet most asian people have already gotten used to the IME just appearing in a random corner
14:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> xd
14:49 <+ChillerDragon> is it possible that turning on vulkan causes crashes or is that my bot client?
14:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i could swear u already asked that yesterday 😄
14:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> 
14:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> its defs possible
14:50 <+ChillerDragon> yes similar wonderings new crashes tho
14:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i only tested the backend for like 1 month, and the only other person also testing it was mind 😄
14:50 <+ChillerDragon> oke lemme alpha test for u babe
14:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> just show crashlog and we'll see
14:50 <+ChillerDragon> its not release yet is it?
14:50 <+ChillerDragon> lets see if i can reproduce
14:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yeah not released yet 😄 only RC
14:51 <+ChillerDragon> i can
14:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Tater> the game runs weird when I use vulkan with the visual studio debugger but seems fine in release mode
14:51 <+ChillerDragon> https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/H3
14:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ui
14:52 <+ChillerDragon> I use Arch BTW
14:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> xd
14:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> u use nvidia thats also good to know
14:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <ReiTW> because a dummy takes a slot
14:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <ReiTW> so you can consider it as a player
14:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> chillerdragon, are you resizing or smth?
14:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Smetanolub> why it takes a slot btw?
14:52 <+ChillerDragon> my dummy has feelings so its considered humanlike
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <ReiTW> it is like if you have two players connected tho
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> what do you do before it crashes?
14:53 <+ChillerDragon> @Jupstar i jon multimapless and walk 10 tiles
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> random?
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <ReiTW> for the server
14:53 <+ChillerDragon> zoom
14:53 <+ChillerDragon> tab
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ok thanks
14:53 <+ChillerDragon> shoot
14:53 <+ChillerDragon> usualy vibin stuff
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> u have modern nvidia?
14:53 <+ChillerDragon> I use Arch BTW
14:53 <+ChillerDragon> or wat u mean
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> what nvidia
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> u have
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> rtx 4090
14:53 <+ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1648130012.png
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> 700 watt
14:53 <+ChillerDragon> super old
14:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> 980 ok thanks
14:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> but will defs look into it
14:54 <+ChillerDragon> thanks babe
14:54 <+ChillerDragon> if u need anything tell me
14:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ok
15:00 <+ChillerDragon> seems to happen in game only (not in menu or browser) after about 20-40 seconds of doing whatever
15:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> weird af
15:00 <+ChillerDragon> and i can reproduce with vanilla ddnet :D 
15:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i dunno if nvidia ships validation layers
15:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> else try 
15:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ./DDNet "dbg_gfx 4"
15:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> oh
15:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> normally nvidia drivers are really good
15:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> but gtx 980 is really old
15:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> so hard to say what could be the problem xd
15:01 <+ChillerDragon> https://paste.zillyhuhn.com/Jq
15:02 <+ChillerDragon> want me to buy new gpu?
15:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> xd
15:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <ReiTW> only true people uses freebsd :pepoBagar:
15:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i'd rather understand the problem, but sadly no validation layers enabled
15:02 <+ChillerDragon> vali wat
15:03 <+ChillerDragon> the ddoser?
15:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ? xd
15:03 <+ChillerDragon> idk wat a vali layer is
15:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> validation layer
15:03 <+ChillerDragon> i dont speak vulkan
15:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> xd
15:03 <+ChillerDragon> nerd
15:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> to validate your code
15:03 <+ChillerDragon> is this some scifi language?
15:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yes
15:03 <+ChillerDragon> from starship enterprise?
15:03 <+ChillerDragon> the vulkans?
15:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> btw what is your driver version?
15:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> do u install yourself?
15:03 <+ChillerDragon> how to check
15:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> from nvidia.com?
15:04 <+ChillerDragon> i compiled my self
15:04 <+ChillerDragon> xd
15:04 <+ChillerDragon> nah jk
15:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> the driver?
15:04 <+ChillerDragon> i just installed some nvidia from pacman
15:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ah ok
15:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> is arch using latest nvidia drivers always?
15:04 <+ChillerDragon> 5 extra/nvidia 510.54-9 (27.5 MiB 27.5 MiB) (Installed)
15:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> sounds relativly new
15:04 <+ChillerDragon> it can do rendering already
15:04 <+ChillerDragon> that i can tell
15:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> can u try `gfx_render_thread_count 1` -> restart -> to force single threaded vulkan
15:05 <+ChillerDragon> https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/nvidia/
15:05 <+ChillerDragon> can i also start with gfx_render_thread_count 1 ?
15:05 <+ChillerDragon> i dont get the restart part
15:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yes
15:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> bcs most ppl arent cool terminal kids xd
15:06 <+ChillerDragon> now my screen turned pink
15:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> its ok
15:06 <+ChillerDragon> prank
15:06 <+ChillerDragon> it didnt
15:06 <+ChillerDragon> same crash
15:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ok MHHHHHHHHHHH
15:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> can u easily downgrade on arch?
15:07 <+ChillerDragon> want some coredump?
15:07 <+ChillerDragon> downgrade nvidia
15:07 <+ChillerDragon> no thats a pain xd
15:07 <+ChillerDragon> last time i checked it was a pain
15:08 <+ChillerDragon> but i think i can switch to lts kenrel plus nvidia lts
15:08 <+ChillerDragon> ou boi im gonna brick my system
15:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> then dont do it xd
15:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> @Not Keks What is the difference between WRAP_CLAMP and WRAP_REPEAT. When does this become noticeable?
15:09 <+ChillerDragon> Lmao tell pacman to think its 2014 https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Arch_Linux_Archive#How_to_restore_all_packages_to_a_specific_date
15:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i think i found the issue
15:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> thanks chillerdragon
15:10 <+ChillerDragon> pro
15:10 <+ChillerDragon> how u so smart
15:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> fucking copy&paste errors always kill me xD
15:10 <+ChillerDragon> do you wear coding socks?
15:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> can u test this
15:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> chillerdragon
15:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> https://github.com/Jupeyy/ddnet/tree/pr_text_texture_bug
15:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> u on 4k chillerdragon?
15:15 <+ChillerDragon> yes
15:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ah
15:15 <+ChillerDragon> 42 sec in
15:15 <+ChillerDragon> lgtm
15:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> thats why u got it so ez
15:15 <+ChillerDragon> ALMOST 1 MINUTE
15:15 <+ChillerDragon> omagawd i think u fixed it pro
15:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yeah thanks for finding these stupid bugs xD
15:16 <+ChillerDragon> thanks for fixing those!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15:16 <+ChillerDragon> pog
15:17 <+ChillerDragon> have you considered rewriting the graphics backend in shell to avoid crashbugs?
15:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> maybe this also fixes the crash for @bencie and others (hopefully it all was this crash xD)
15:17 <+ChillerDragon> that would be pog
15:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> good idea
15:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i'd love to see a translation library for vulkan to webgpu
15:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> then we have epic fps in browser xddd
15:21 <+ChillerDragon> isnt step 0 to have a browser client?
15:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> we have xdd
15:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> but it doesnt support UDP
15:21 <+ChillerDragon> ah that one
15:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> and curl doesnt support websockets
15:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> so currently no internet
15:21 <+ChillerDragon> isnt it super deprecated and old
15:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> https://aliveclan.de/ddnet/DDNet.html
15:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> here test out
15:21 <+ChillerDragon> the one by east eee something like that?
15:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> no
15:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> its current client
15:22 <+ChillerDragon> powered by emscripten
15:22 <+ChillerDragon> cringe watermark
15:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> the one from eee also uses emscripten, but since then it evolved
15:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i didnt add any javascript myself
15:22 <+ChillerDragon> so its activley maintained?
15:22 <+ChillerDragon> by who where
15:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> thats the point
15:22 <+ChillerDragon> and why is it so ugly xd
15:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> its almost upstream DDNet code
15:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> since we have GLES 3 code which is alsmost webgl2 we dont need any hack
15:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> SDL2 works out of the box
15:23 <+ChillerDragon> fullscreen is black xd
15:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> how is it ugly
15:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> chrome?
15:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> firefox works for me
15:23 <+ChillerDragon> omg i lost my 3rd monitor xd
15:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> chrome is black for me too
15:23 <+ChillerDragon> im on firefox
15:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> strange
15:24 <+ChillerDragon> aaa ctrl+t
15:24 <+ChillerDragon> to gain back control xd
15:24 <+ChillerDragon> are you associated with the alive clan?
15:24 <+ChillerDragon> isnt that the fng gang?
15:25 <+ChillerDragon> omg its german website
15:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yes i am leader xd
15:28 <+ChillerDragon> so where ddnet web code
15:28 <+ChillerDragon> and why is there this watermark -.-
15:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> u can also use custom html
15:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i just chose the one from emscripten bcs i was too lazy xD
15:29 <+ChillerDragon> so why u dont
15:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> and it has some features
15:29 <+ChillerDragon> i noticed
15:29 <+ChillerDragon> but not worth the overallfeeling
15:29 <+ChillerDragon> https://zillyhuhn.com/cs/.1648132168.png
15:29 <+ChillerDragon> i feel humiliated
15:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> u wont be able to compile rn:
15:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> https://github.com/Jupeyy/ddnet/commit/1813b08fb06d34bcbf847957f99174aa542b6d91
15:29 <+ChillerDragon> ou
15:29 <+ChillerDragon> 5hrs ago
15:29 <+ChillerDragon> its brand new!?
15:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> u need to compile all libs but freetype requires zlib and i havent finished that yet
15:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> yes i did it yesterday mostly
15:30 <+ChillerDragon> it still runs tho
15:30 <+ChillerDragon> when pr against ddnet
15:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> its nice for map preview
15:30 <+ChillerDragon> how do u load maps
15:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> when i finish the zlib module
15:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> not decided yet
15:31 <+ChillerDragon> u make my web editor look bad xd
15:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> xd
15:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> editor can already be used btw
15:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> but no way to save permament rn xD
15:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i really just wanted it to compile and run
15:32 <+ChillerDragon> when i save
15:32 <+ChillerDragon> do i get code execution on ur vps?
15:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> no
15:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> its webasm
15:32 <+ChillerDragon> so its in my downloads folder?
15:32 <+ChillerDragon> xd
15:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i dunno if webasm even has anything like a filesystem
15:32 <+ChillerDragon> /home/web_user
15:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> quite possible it just gets emulated
15:33 <+ChillerDragon> honeypot
15:33 <+ChillerDragon> but cool 
15:33 <+ChillerDragon> gj
15:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> as said its not really made for IO, a map preview that isnt buggy like the one on ddnet.tw would already be nice
15:34 <+ChillerDragon> why delete adroid things tho
15:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i didnt delete
15:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i moved them
15:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> and merged in 1 script
15:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i'll reduce the diff when i pr it
15:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> the script is genreally nice to compile the libs
15:35 <+ChillerDragon> ofc its nice
15:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ez to extend it for windows too
15:35 <+ChillerDragon> its shell
15:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> then i can compile libs myself ez xd
15:36 <+ChillerDragon> why do you capitalize all your local variables?
15:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> i dunno
15:36 <+ChillerDragon> capitalized is for global env vars
15:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> feels more correct to me in script languages xd
15:36 <+ChillerDragon> exported crap
15:36 <+ChillerDragon> no
15:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> we do it in cmake too
15:37 <+ChillerDragon> its not script lang
15:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> why not
15:37 <+ChillerDragon> its pro lang
15:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ez
15:40 <+ChillerDragon> btw /register command not found
15:40 <+ChillerDragon> scam server
15:49 <+ChillerDragon> yo jupstar wat renderer you recommend btw?
15:49 <+ChillerDragon> reason i tested vulkan at all is i occasionally get some glitchy lines wondering my horizontals
15:49 <+ChillerDragon> is opengl 3.3 better than 3.0 if it runs?
15:51 <+ChillerDragon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38WplkkBVGc
16:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> :kappa: :kappa: :rekappler:
16:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> 3.3 should perform better than 3.0, VK performs better than both iirc, all except 1.x render correctly
16:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> so I have a question about one bug (feature?). If you press A/D and go in spec, when you unspec you're still 'pressing' A/D, but if you press enter (to enter the chat) and then enter again to close the chat, you'll 'release' A/D. My fellow tee friend found, that if you remove this ResetInput call in src/game/client/components/controls.cpp, line 262, the bug get fixed.
16:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> So the question is: can we safely remove this call? Or somehow modify it? Or was it intentional to have that kind of behaviour?
16:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/956578475932778556/unknown.png
16:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> at least they are relativly stable xd
16:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> mesa is best ofc xd
16:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> chillerdragon i dunno, nvidia on linux is gambling anyway, just choose what works best
17:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> Looks like that is very intentionally being emulated there. You'd have to ask whoever added that
17:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> how can I find who added that?
17:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> Git blame \\O/
17:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> If it'a hard to find there maybe check when BugDDRaceInput was added
17:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> I'm not really familiar with git, is it a command 'blame'? or a program?
17:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> It is a command, but it's easier on githuv
17:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Learath2> There should be a button towards the top of the page that says blame
17:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Chairn> @deen do i need to rebase https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/pull/4881 ?
17:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <deen> yes
18:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> so I guess, deen added it? but then 'm_PlayerFlags != PLAYERFLAG_PLAYING' got changed to 'm_PlayerFlags == PLAYERFLAG_CHATTING' with comment 'Don't stop movement after opening player list'
18:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> so I think A/D snaps in all cases except chatting? still not sure if it's a feature
18:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> @deen can you look into it?
18:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/956599347041153054/unknown.png
18:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/956599347263459348/unknown.png
18:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <deen> yeah, that's by design
18:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> can you explain a bit? what's the point?
18:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <deen> I'm not sure, I think players always complained when something changed there
18:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <deen> So it's a bit dangerous to change the code
18:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Lumpy ◐ω◑ (ru)> are the complaints on the github or no? Just want to test the cases, coz I have this fix for a week now I guess and haven't seen any weird behaviour
18:51 <+ChillerDragon> lmao i just looked up how to install programms on suse and first hit shows teeworlds xd https://youtu.be/O3bgZEBI2DE?t=63
20:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <perrodecerro> wat about add cmd for check teamrank/rank points ingame
21:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Chairn> what do you mean?
21:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Chairn> `/rankteam` & `/rank` & `/points`
21:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <bencie> he means the points you get for finishing top10 in team / in t0
21:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <bencie> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/956647469314359296/unknown.png
21:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <bencie> 2nd 3rd column
21:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Chairn> ah there https://ddnet.tw/ranks/
21:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <bencie> yeah
21:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> any news on that?
21:55 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <c0d3d3v> xD I have in my free time today only worked on the ninja bar that I just posted in #showroom. I'll take care of it tomorrow.
21:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> ah nice
21:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <Jupstar> looks good already ;D
23:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] <deen> probably not, they were many years ago. We could try changing it and see if anyone complains