00:00 <+bridge> [ddnet] ill quote the message instead then 08:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] your edits look strange 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] how to snap objects before other ones / server side 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] i tried this 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/870296079051132988/00a88c41-7100-4ea1-834d-4f68e3f3aadd.png 15:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] but nothing 16:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ehe? Why would you want to mess around with the snap order? 16:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] now i recognize that matricks built a really great project with great code in c, but open sourcing without him as maintainer turned it somewhere 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] why not 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] 3d illusiojn 16:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] 3d illusion 16:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] Um, the order of snapping doesnt change anything though 17:25 <+bridge> [ddnet] Well there are very subtle differences but nothing visible iirc 18:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmm 18:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] but its possible to change z layer 18:28 <+bridge> [ddnet] i saw it already 18:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] but its possible to change "z layer" 18:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/870343874990706778/video01.mp4 18:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] shield is blinking every direction change 19:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen @Learath2 why online servers that listed in internet only displayed in the client's favorites tab ? 20:04 <+bridge> [ddnet] 😎👍 20:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🐤 20:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] I dont follow 22:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] imagine splitting mapitems' enum into small enum classes 22:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] @tela https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/293493549758939136/869909642057236480 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] @tela https://github.com/microsoft/cascadia-code 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] damn yeah 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] learath has good taste 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think i still like fira more 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] ya me too 22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] im not a big fan of that a 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] some weird curves and stuff in other letters too 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] im not sure if i like operator or not https://www.cdnfonts.com/operator-mono.font 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] i thought i liked it but now im not sure 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] does this count as #developer chat? lol 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye i mean 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] has to do with coding / terminal fonts :P 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont rly hang here so i dont know 22:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] this is also sort of a tech chat 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] actually it gets used for that more than dev lol 22:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] id imagine its annoying to sort thru this stuff to find dev discussion 😦 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] there was one font i tried to like 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] convert to mono myself 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] with zero experience doing that 22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] it was hell 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] well to be quite honest, a lot of the dev work just gets done by one person on a single feature, rarely it's used to mitigate issues and occasionally people will ask for input 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto+Mono 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] this one also great 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] and for issue discussion i think most people prefer github issues 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] true ! 22:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] yea roboto's not bad 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] but i feel like wordpress themes ruined roboto for me 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] ive never really used wordpress 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] https://www.dafontfree.io/consolas-font/ 22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] I like this 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] consolas is nice 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] what is that one monospaced font where u can make small customizations on the website before downloading it? 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] Do you look for fonts for your ide? 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] I don't use an IDE i'm not a coder lol 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] its just for terminal 22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] i can do basic bash scripting and thats about it 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] and basic web dev 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] and by basic i mean no js 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] Ah ok, yeah I dont have custom fonts for that 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] i used consolas for forever 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's soooo good 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] default on windows but so fkin clean 22:18 <+bridge> [ddnet] also i used courier new bold for a while idk why 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] one good thing about windows :kekleo: 22:19 <+bridge> [ddnet] 🐤 22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] actually it does. just implemented what i was talking about 22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] but prediction ruins it 22:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] it works only without antiping 22:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol 22:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] what did you implement 22:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] . 22:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] ^ 22:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] windows is not all bad 😂 22:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] Just joking I use windows myself 😄 22:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] every OS ive ever used kinda sucks in one way or another lol 22:36 <+bridge> [ddnet] I just like to bash windows 22:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] whoa cool 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] i feel that 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] Unpopular opinion: If I could install mac os on my pc I definitly would 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] without scuffed hackintoshs 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] I use hackintosh lol 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] as my main OS 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] ye kinda 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] did you buy custom hardware? 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe make it take a diagonal path 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] from top right to bottom left and back 22:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] well, I bought all my PC components with hackintosh in mind 22:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe make it like atom 22:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] kek 22:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] could 22:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] trying to get hackintosh to be stable on any random already existing PC hardware sounds like hell though 22:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] exactly, I feel like this is the case with "compatible" hardware also though 22:40 <+bridge> [ddnet] Hows updating software 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] Do apple products work? 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] lol about that 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] well even when I used actual macbooks, I never really updated the OS because most new macos updates are filled with useless features 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] for me anyway 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] like improving a bunch of apple stock programs like "photos" and "music" and stuff like that 22:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] so yeah, updating is kind of a pain if you want to do it 22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] I also use android though so I've never tried to do any kind of syncing with an iPhone or anything, but I know imessage does work 22:42 <+bridge> [ddnet] arch users with 3 updated packages in stable-repo/sec 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] you have to kind of "like" troubleshooting to deal with hackintosh lol 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] Okay probably works fine in ur case then 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] I have a macbook that I use for work 22:44 <+bridge> [ddnet] I would like to have the same experience on my main pc 22:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] ya I like macos too 22:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] mostly because I need to use software like ableton and adobe suite and stuff, but also want unix stuff 22:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] unix mainly 22:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] unfortunately though hackintosh will be dead in a few years 22:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] 😮 why 22:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] why 22:45 <+bridge> [ddnet] because of ARM 22:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] once apple stops supporting intel machines it'll be dead 22:46 <+bridge> [ddnet] I estimate like 5-8 more years though 22:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] :PepoRage: apple 22:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] i know, as evil as they come 22:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] once its dead im thinking of just running a linux VM inside of windows and keeping it fullscreen always lol 22:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] until i want to do some creative software stuff or game 22:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] either that or just two PCs side by side with linux/windows and some sort of complicated KVM switcher situation 22:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] You could just install linux as ur main os 22:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] or dual boot setup 22:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] ya but i kind of hate dual booting 22:49 <+bridge> [ddnet] fair 22:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] dual booting sucks 22:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think i would rather run a windows vm now that i only play teeworlds 22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] haha ya 22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] for shit like adobe 22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] im glad ddnet runs perfectly on my hackintosh 22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] but honestly more recenrly my work has been using figma which has a web version if it doesn't work on linux 22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] i was booted into windows only for months because i never stopped playing ddnet, until i decided to try it on macos 22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] hated it 😦 22:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] oo thats nifty 22:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] meh probably works https://github.com/Figma-Linux/figma-linux 22:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] worth a shot 22:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's an electron app i don't see why it wouldn't but 22:53 <+bridge> [ddnet] who knows 22:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] ive actually never heard of figma 22:54 <+bridge> [ddnet] is it nice? 23:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's not bad, if you use it correctly it will output usable css 23:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh interesting 23:05 <+bridge> [ddnet] i thought it was something else lol 23:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] it's for designing websites 23:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] remember adobe muse? loool 23:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] i didnt use it 23:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] ive used adobe xd though 23:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] it was gross 23:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] it might still be around 23:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] oh yeah i use adobe too 23:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] photoshop, premier, and after effects mostly 23:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] i should learn to use final cut 23:06 <+bridge> [ddnet] heard good things about it 23:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] final cut killed themselves when they turned into baby mode iMovie 23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] kind of like, garage band vs ableton or pro tools or something 23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] i want something that's easy to use like paint.net 23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] but doesn't necessarily have everything 23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] ya perfect for you then 23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] no one uses vegas anymore right? 23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think people still do 23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] but premier is the gold standard for editing right 23:08 <+bridge> [ddnet] ya i believe it still is 23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] and then after effects if needed 23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] can you edit in after effects? 23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] i wasnt clear on that distinction 23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] i thought after effects was for like layering stuff and simple animation + filters 23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah you can but premier is better for just straight jump cuts and stuff 23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] i see 23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah its much better at animation stuff 23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] using lots of layers and effects 23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] i think it makes sense then 23:09 <+bridge> [ddnet] you would do your cuts first 23:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] and the move to after effects for the artsy work 23:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] and then move to after effects for the artsy work 23:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] also i assume you would do audio first in premier 23:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] ya or if you're work is actual animation then you'd start by animating in AE and move to premier for putting stuff together chronologically 23:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] i guess you could do it either way 23:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] maybe AE first is better 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] because you can animate with a bit of buffer and trim to what timing feels right 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] ya depends on what you're doing 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] but then it's not responsive to the clip length 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] hmmm 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah definitely lol 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] i used finalcut/premier for years doing these sort of complicated artsy shits 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] then realized AE is like 10x better and easier for what i do 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] like the video art you do? 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] ya 23:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] gotcha 23:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] id do this stuff where i'd get a video clip and use like a green screen style effect where it would take out 1 color (the background) and then use the remaining video as a mask for another video 23:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] and layer like 20 of these on top of each other 23:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] really hard on rendering lol 23:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah i can see that