00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I bet he is hiding his porn in there 00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xd 00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] well if i ever quit tw id make it open src or at least send it to people who will keep it alive 00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] shhhh 00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what if fng is his porn, did you think of that 00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] exposed 00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] no shaming here 00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can we change fng sac sound btw 00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @noby that doesn't work. you need to send it to people before 00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] once you're out, you'll be unreachable 00:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] to ninja slash 00:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you dont like the scoreboard sound? 00:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i mean i doubt it would be something instant where one day im playing like normal and the next day im gone forever 00:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i assume most people "quitting" just means playing less and less over time 00:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] hmmm 00:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] maybe you are being naive in that assumption... 00:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 😈 00:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] make dead mans switch in case u od 00:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] LOL 00:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] already have it 00:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] way to remotely kill the server just in case 00:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or u mean to release it lol 00:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] imagine being assassinated over tw mod source code 00:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] both i guess 00:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @noby mind giving me access to your gitlab repo so I can access it once you're gone? 00:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and me once both of you are gone 00:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and me once all 3 of you are gone 00:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] heinrich ye probably could do that 00:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] hmmm how many people are on this server? 00:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/832738112911310888/unknown.png 00:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] can never be too safe 00:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] doesn't heinrich already have the source to fng anyway? 00:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] dont think so 00:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thought he was the one that extracted the antibot 00:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i wonder what happened to savalic :feelsbadman: 00:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes i gave him the antibot i made for bombay 00:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] oh wow you don't even trust us? 😄 00:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] does kurosio still play? 00:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i want to ask them about some things 00:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i mean it already had all of the parts that ddnet needs 00:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or if anyone has contact to them 00:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] no sense wasting cpu trying to detect bots that noone is going to use on ddrace in the first place 00:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] my gitlab username is heinrich5991 00:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes sir, add me to the list _coughs_ :P 00:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] we can have a ceremony like the olympic games, noby passing on the torch 00:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] keeping the flame alive 00:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :D lol 00:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] dont get ur hopes up im not planning on leaving soon :p 00:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ik i was just joking 00:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye lol 00:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ill add on to the shameless plug, my github username is SPYRESZA but if it requires a gitlab account, i can organise that as well! :P 00:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i plan on making an for entities generator, combining different borders/tiles/colors from different entity sets (with permission) in some python app 00:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i plan on making an entities generator, combining different borders/tiles/colors from different entity sets (with permission) in some python app 00:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so you can customize your own entities using different images 00:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but i have to learn about again 00:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and of course the lovely tkinter which looks ugly af 00:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] check out pyqt 00:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] looks less ugly 😉 00:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] pyqt never worked for me 00:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and the docs were more confusing 00:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but maybe i could try again 00:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I did some pyqt apps 00:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] looked quite native, I liked it 00:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] making actual applications in python should be made illegal 00:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @noby i wouldnt be surprised if you read journals in your free time around game anti cheats for further inspiration 😉 00:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] there aren't many resources on this stuff, no one wants to share their solution 00:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so it's mostly divine inspiration 00:20 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Learath2 what's your alternative? 00:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I want some native-looking UI 00:21 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but prefer some scripting language 00:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] this is roughly my idea 00:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/832742727401078794/unknown.png 00:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 depends on what I'm making 00:22 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Ger1 servers arent shown in the ddnet tab even when u enabled europe, u can see other ger server or nl servers 00:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I would only reach for python for a script 00:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I'm learning more perl to replace that too hopefully 00:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i should learn zig or nim and use that instead 00:23 <+bridge_> [ddnet] to learn more xd 00:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] should discord presence elapsed time reset when the map is changed? 00:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i notice for learath it's still 2 hours 00:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] maybe i have been just talking that long... 00:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Learath2 say I'm making a simple interface for handling a stupid web interface so data entry is easier 00:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I dont know if this answers your question - https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/832218894433255485 00:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I dont know if this answers your question - https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/832218894433255485 00:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/342454474117218334/832188093363781632 00:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 I'd make a CLI and if it had to be a gui I'd use java 00:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] how do I get a native looking UI in java? 00:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or I might make a node project, I love those nowadays 00:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you can't but jswing isn't too awful 00:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] well the ger1 should still be shown in the europe section right? 00:27 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Its only GER and NLD now from my understanding. GER1 was replaced with NLD and I think GER is the old GER2 00:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] hm. native UI is kind of a dealbreaker for me. I don't like this non-native stuff 00:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] If I needed native ui I'd go with C++ honestly 00:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] imma move my question 00:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah cant go wrong with c++ for native. jswing is eww, the fileexplorer as well is not the same when i tried it. 00:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] aodq knows a bit about minimal c++ ui 00:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] if you want something pretty just use node and make a webpage out of it 00:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] now add the one-off requirement, and I'm back at python tbh 00:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yea the fastest way to make anything pretty is just web, which is sad but meh 00:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] god I wish python was not awful at dealing with modules, I so seriously want to like it 00:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yea, dependency system is as aweful as C/C++'s 00:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] NO 00:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you link stuff and it works in C++ 00:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I actually contemplate suicide each time I import anything in python 00:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i think its not as bad as what you think lol 00:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] if you want guarantees just use relative imports 00:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] why do you need a separate interface for data entry? cant integrate it into the website? 00:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @lynn check out how I generate the 0.7 version of the netmsgs in the ddnet server 00:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] wdym data entry 00:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] sec 00:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] The amount of pain I had to endure to get those imported properly 00:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] where is this? 00:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I actually gave up on the entire project for 3 months because it made me want to break my keyboard in half 00:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] why do you need a separate interface for data entry? cant integrate it into the website? @heinrich5991 00:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you wanted to use the native import statement and not import lib I guess? 00:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/tree/master/datasrc the seven part 00:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you only use importlib for hot import stuff 00:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] luckily deen figured out some combination of -ms in the cmake command so I didn't have to dig into importlib 00:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://github.com/hecrj/iced 00:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://camo.githubusercontent.com/54e584347854ab6084f26859910d421e45a95f6fe066eb5cb13dc32a78fb6cc3/68747470733a2f2f7468756d62732e6766796361742e636f6d2f4c6974746c6553616e6548616c69636f72652d736d616c6c2e676966 00:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :PepeA: 00:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i see the problem here 00:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it was referencing the module in the previous directory 00:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] havent really but would be interested to 00:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I see the problem aswell, it's not rocket science, fixing it is more complex than neurosurgery 00:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] this is very c++ python code xD 00:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but whatever, that was a specific case 00:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it is a little annoying yea 00:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I think the problem was that you didn't consider all possibilities there 00:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I did some weird importing logic in libtw2 for a similar use case 00:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it was fairly painless 00:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] (using importlib) 00:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] C++ can be just as hard if you're not as much into it as we are 00:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] each time I start a python project there are 50 different ways to manage your requirements, a 1000 new ways to structure your project, a billion ways to make virtualenvs 00:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] especially cross-platform 00:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] same with c++ 00:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I'd honestly rather work with 8086 assembly then create another virtualenv 00:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nobody forces you to use cmake 00:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or qmake 00:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or 00:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] anything 00:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] every sane project either uses autohell or cmake 00:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] now that is just the same with python 00:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] every sane project uses pipenv or something like that 00:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I bet some python proponent would say something similar 00:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] see above 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] also, I think meson is another contender @Learath2 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://pipenv.pypa.io/en/latest/ 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ```py 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] def create_flags_table(names): 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] return ["enum", "{"] + [f"\t{name} = 1<<{i}," for i, name in enumerate(names)] + ["};"] 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ``` 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :P 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you probably dont care but i wanted to share 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @noby you should gather the data and create yourself a nice web ui page to get a player break down with various graphs, information and to the point where you can compare players alongside each other - not that you need it, but would be a cool project i guess. 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] f strings require modern python 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and we run this on some ancient debian iirc 00:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ...seriously? f-strings have been around forever 00:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ahh i see 00:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] lol no 00:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i mean yeah but that is barely longer with old style format 00:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] > They joined the party in Python 3.6. 00:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] how long ago was that 00:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 2016 00:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] jesus christ 00:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thats not old 00:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it is to me xD 00:39 <+bridge_> [ddnet] by most ppl terms 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i could still do that, the server logs a line of data everytime someone shoots laser or hooks a tee and i could run the antibot checks after the fact 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] legacy for the sake of legacy 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i just dont like the argument :P 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] lol legacy in python means python 2 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xd 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] not always 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] not supported anymore anyway 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thats what legacy means most of the time 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://github.com/naftaliharris/tauthon would like to have a word 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] no stop 00:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] let it die 00:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] just please kill it 00:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I know you think I'm being unfair to your language of choice but I'm not kidding when I say I'd rather use 8086 assembly 00:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] its fine, im super used to python hate 00:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] its veeeeery popular... 00:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] as someone who regularly uses java I have a high high hiiiiigh tolerance for garbage in a language 00:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] shitting on python is almost like shitting on js 00:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I wasn't feeling unfairly treated ^^ 00:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] if you're talking to me 00:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ya idk who anymore 00:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] just use rust 00:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :PepeA: 00:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i dont rly care what lang people use anymore 00:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ytou should care 00:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and engage 00:43 <+bridge_> [ddnet] in holy wars 00:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] people should use vim, they should use 4 width tabs 00:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] linux 00:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I look at rust before sleeping so it doesn't look ugly to me anymore 00:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] as soon as the phrase "real programmers" comes up i stop listening 00:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] a few more weeks of this and I'll finally be able to read it without getting confused about the damn return type being on the wrong side 00:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] rust is beuty 00:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] lol 00:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it makes more sense being -> than on C 00:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] there is someone who wanted to implement ddnet server in rust 00:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] input -> output 00:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i was going to help but i dont know rust 00:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so the wrong side is C side 00:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah i prefer types on the right 00:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] u were wrong all this time 00:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :PES_SusThink: 00:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] as a declaration follows use man the C one is what makes sense to me 00:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i dont understand that sentence 00:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] use man 00:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ? 00:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] manual? 00:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] declaration-follows-use person* 00:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] o 00:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] in C "T foo(K bar)" = "foo called with 1 argument of type bar is of type T" 00:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] wat 00:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] a function is not of type T 00:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] a function returns a type T 00:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you read that like "returns type T accepts K 00:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the other way around 00:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] C got it backwards 00:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :greenthing: 00:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] C came before, y u flip around decades of convention? 00:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] convention doesnt mean its good 00:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and it can stall progress 00:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes 00:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] POP3 is also a convention 00:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] IRC is also a convention 00:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] rust syntax is way more powerfull than C 00:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] POP3 isn't a convention used by hand 00:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] does that mean that they're ideal lol 00:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] everything is an experesion 00:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Learath2 C kinda has it backwards though 😛 pascal, maths 😉 00:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] wait wait, even better 00:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] SMS :) 00:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @heinrich5991 ik, but why change it when there is no advantage to changing it 00:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I'm still mad at the languages that took that step 00:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i mean the "advantage" is definitely more subjective, so i understand how you see it 00:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] forces me to read code like a dyslexic 00:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Learath2 u may be left leaning in politics but ur pretty right leaning in programming 00:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] right to left to right 00:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] at the end of the day 00:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :PES_SusThink: 00:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] really it's bikeshedding 00:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] people talk about it because it's just besides the point xD 00:51 <+bridge_> [ddnet] takes away responsibility of actually coding :D 00:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] omg "curly brace" people i hate 00:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] like who cares 00:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i have someone at work who wont touch any lang that doesnt use braces 00:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and they're the lead dev 00:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvZA9n3e5pc&t=3181s 00:52 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :BASED: 00:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] zig and nim are my favourite new languages honestly 00:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] same here 00:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] crystal? 00:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] rust 00:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nim is python but actually doesn't perform like shit 00:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] crystal is just less brainfuck rust 00:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] imo 00:53 <+bridge_> [ddnet] zig is C but all the things I wanted from other languages added to it 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nim also has this syntax 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and first class cross compilation support ❤️ 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I think it reads better for newcomers anyway 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] does nim emphasize safety? i cant remember honestly 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] not that i know 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Probably, everyone adopted it, there must be a reason for it 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] btw zig is not as safe as rust 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it was zig that had manual memory management right 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] oh ofc 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it also makes the lexer prettier 00:54 <+bridge_> [ddnet] the parser* 00:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Perfect as I hate safety 😛 00:56 <+bridge_> [ddnet] a buffer overflow a day keeps the doctor away 00:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and millions of dollars away 00:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ☕ 00:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] destroying capitalism with buffer overflows 00:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ah that's why I'm not a miliionaire yet 00:57 <+bridge_> [ddnet] fuck if only I used rust 01:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] honestly I still think the safety of rust comes with way too much brainwork for the developer 01:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Learath2 it just puts the brainwork when you program 01:02 <+bridge_> [ddnet] on c++ u deal with the shit after u realize it segfaults :) 01:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah, but I already spend that much brainpower when I'm manually managing the memory 01:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and u will always fail 01:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] that's confident 01:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] since you seem to be an oracle can you also tell me the btc price in 10 days? 01:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i agree learath 01:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yep im confident ur c++ or c programs will have leaks and safety errors due to memory 01:03 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xD 01:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and race conditions 01:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] rust does not prevent memory leaks 01:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] wow you know all this before I even write a line of code? 😛 01:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :BASED: 01:04 <+bridge_> [ddnet] maybe you should be an analyst instead of a dev 01:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] im just backed by statistics 01:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and that human do errors 01:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] does this mean that you could have errors 01:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but statistics doesn't let you know that I'll always fail 😛 01:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I'm not completely retarded no matter what some of you think about me lol 01:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] they tell me you will most likely fail so 01:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] tbh not just you 01:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] even the most pro programmer 01:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] pls say stupid not retarded 01:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] oh noes 01:06 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I've been caught by the language police 01:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] not a fan of that word, that's all 01:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] he is free to use it 01:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] it's a bit pejorative :P 01:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but meh, lots of people in tw say it 01:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i always say something but it goes unnoticed xD 01:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I mean I intended it to be pejorative 01:07 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :( 01:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] imagine we are on the level where someone cares about what insult you use on urself 01:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] did you know that idiot also used to be a medical term? 😉 01:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] twitter is leaking 01:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] unless there is a different meaning to pejorative 01:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] isn't it just another word for slur? 01:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i mean if i told you i am a f\*\*\*\*\* would you also be okay with that lol 01:08 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye 01:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] that is very strange to me lol 01:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] sure I don't care how you refer to yourself 01:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I'd be very concerned if you used it about someone else though 01:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I guess you're asking about faggot, not something related to fuck? 01:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yes that is the word 01:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] kinda hard to make out the word there 01:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i mean it cant be fucking or fucked because they're not nouns 01:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] fagott is an instrument 01:09 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xd 01:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] german is leaking 01:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagott 01:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] It's called fagot in turkish 01:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] (the instrument, I bet we stole the word from you) 01:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Fagot in catalan 01:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/832754941801660427/131px-FoxBassoon.png 01:10 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ill drop it 01:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @lynn where are you from btw? 01:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] usa 01:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i knew it 01:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :Susge: 01:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah, figured, it seems these words are much harsher over there 01:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] burgerland is screwed ngl 01:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] well they are used in very derogatory contexts here 01:11 <+bridge_> [ddnet] at least historically 01:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] faggot for me sounds like nothing, but i guess its more because im not a native english speaker 01:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] also the spanish word for it is maricon 01:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and nobody takes rly seriously this insult 01:12 <+bridge_> [ddnet] both the german and englich version of faggot dont mean much to me 01:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] both are used negatively here 01:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah maybe since we aren't native speakers that's why we don't really see all the connotations behind them 01:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] though I don't have any words in my native language that I'd NEVER utter 01:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] no doubt english players still use retard, not to say they should lol 01:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] well yes its how you call your buddy when theyre doing something gay u know? 01:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so maybe it's more of a culture thing, there are no banned/taboo words in turkish 01:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] here its common to call others "hijo de puta" son of a whore and nobody bats an eye 01:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :BASED: 01:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 😄 01:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ryozoki calls america burgerland i call catalonia spain :troll: 01:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] exactly the same in german but its one word 01:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] amk is common enough in turkish that it infected german 01:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] amk? idk that 01:14 <+bridge_> [ddnet] translate that into english and I'd be banned in many communities 01:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] amk I guess very very roughly translates to "fuck your pussy" 01:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/832756088255414292/unknown.png 01:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :justatest: 01:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i dont want to come across as easily offended, there are just words i prefer not to see/say out of consideration for other people who may be offended 01:15 <+bridge_> [ddnet] tranny faggot and retard among these 01:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and one more which i dont even need to spell out for you lol 01:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ye among is the worst 01:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] amogus 01:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] amongus 01:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] xddd 01:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] lynn first 01:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i win! 01:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what do i win 01:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :Sadge: 01:16 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 🏅 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i take @Ryozuki 's dev role for 24 hours 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ok that works 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i dont understand how some people spend half of their life online and still cant cope with the tone. 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i will make a 1 line commit to main ddnet 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] then i get dev role 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] just fix 60 typos like chillerdragon 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] POG ok 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I don't really avoid words. These are a subset of words that I wouldn't refer to anyone else with, but I won't just remove the word from my vocabulary altogether 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] to each their own 😄 01:17 <+bridge_> [ddnet] idrc 01:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] just love people too much, even the easily offended ones 01:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] have u seen white girl twitter 01:18 <+bridge_> [ddnet] its cus they are in their own bubbles 01:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] just like we are in ours 01:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] blue hair 01:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I don't mind people who are offended, so is their right, but when completely unrelated people get offended it really confuses me 01:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] some people dont realize they're being offensive most of the time 01:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] that's the only reason i do it 01:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet]