01:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Learath2 i think the best way to learn to code is to make programs to solve your most basic issues 01:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] for example i started making programs to do my homework 01:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i never rly finished a programming book 01:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and i only tried to start reading a c++ book 01:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] books are old fashioned 01:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] internet is ur best friend 01:24 <+Learath2> Oh, so you are a skiddy? copypastemaster? 01:24 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what 01:25 <+Learath2> Can you even a hashmap without std::list? 01:25 <+Learath2> I bet you'd even use std::map directly 01:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i made my own double linked list in C its nothing complicated 01:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] tbh im avoiding c++ totally lately 01:25 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i enjoy C lot more 01:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] skiddo 01:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] books are overrated 01:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you want to implement a hashmap? go to wikipedia to know how they work, then program it 01:26 <+bridge_> [ddnet] no need to spend 50€ on a shit book 01:27 <+Learath2> 50M? 50 Million what? 01:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what are u talking about 01:28 <+Learath2> Oh, stupid terminal can't do euro signs 01:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i never said 50M 01:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] fix ur shit terminal 01:28 <+Learath2> Who pays for books anyways? 01:28 <+bridge_> [ddnet] lol lea drunk? 01:28 <+Learath2> A book is the only proper way to learn C or you end up like the dimwits I see every day over in ##C that ask stupid ass questions 01:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nope 01:29 <+Learath2> a += a++; help, why is my code not work? 01:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] didnt know u were that old fashioned 01:29 <+bridge_> [ddnet] expected more from you 01:30 <+Learath2> If you are learning C, you learn from a book. If you want to learn whatever newfangled language you want, go ahead and learn it from whatever indian youtuber you want to learn from 01:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nope 01:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i cant even afford a book sir 01:30 <+bridge_> [ddnet] I MEAN M'LADY 01:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i never watched a indian yt i never read a c book 01:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] u are rly closed minded my god 01:31 <+Learath2> The nature of undefined behaviour makes C a venus flytrap for beginners that know no better 01:31 <+Learath2> I've spent dozens of hours helping people who refuse to read a book and just bang their heads against C for hours 01:31 <+bridge_> [ddnet] well you havent met me then 01:32 <+Learath2> Exceptions don't change the rule 01:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] or maybe u are rly into ur own circlejerk of book ppl 01:32 <+Learath2> Besides, I don't know if you pass rigor anyway. 01:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] not open to other ways 01:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i dont know if you pass rigor 01:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] lea drunk 01:32 <+bridge_> [ddnet] definitly 01:32 <+Learath2> @Ryozuki no offense but I literally spend atleast 2-3 hours a day helping people with their C problems 01:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] lol no offense not my problem ur mad about helping ppl 3 hours a day 01:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] like i would care 01:33 <+Learath2> I've seen more of a sample size then you is my point 01:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] well that's somewhat helpful for them, but not about your healthiness 01:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] sure ur own circlejerk 01:33 <+Learath2> You keep telling me i'm close minded. I've seen more then you 01:33 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nah ur rly close minded 01:34 <+Learath2> Fine @Ryozuki drown in your ego instead of accepting that maybe I know a little more then you given I spend so much time actually teaching people the language 01:34 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i think ur the one with lot of ego here boy 01:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] me myself and i is the only correct here - learath 01:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] eat ur fcking ego 01:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i agree, ryo just makes his statement for a reason 01:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and we see it exactly here 01:35 <+Learath2> I justify my claims, with atleast statistical evidence. You just swear like a child 01:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah statistical circlejerk 01:35 <+Learath2> Your evidence is yourself 01:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah i evidence ur bullshit 01:35 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thanks 01:36 <+Learath2> Sorry but 1 person is not of statistical significance, even if it's someone as GRANDIOSE as you 01:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] who is the one who thinks is grandiose here? hmm? 01:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] :monkaS: im sorry did i hear myself in that? 01:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] maybe ushould go to sleep 01:36 <+Learath2> I'm not the one pointlessly insulting the other party in an argument 01:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah ur point is reduced to that 01:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] poor child 01:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] well between me and ryo, im trying to be kind especially for understanding purposes 01:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] what are ut alking about cellegen 01:37 <+bridge_> [ddnet] he did involve me as grandiose 01:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] nobody talked about you 01:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] who else would he mention then? 01:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] bye 01:38 <+bridge_> [ddnet] bye 01:38 <+Learath2> My point is very simple. I've seen a lot of people learning C. I actually spend time teaching C. I'm yet to see someone learn proper C without resorting to a book. 01:38 <+Learath2> Your point seems to be that I'm in a cult of some sort? 01:40 <+Learath2> I don't get which part of me knowing more about the semantics of learning C offends you so much. Given my argument solely stems from the fact that I've seen more people 01:40 <+bridge_> [ddnet] so you say that the only way to learn C properly is to buy or rent a book, read it all the way and understand all of it? does not the internet evolved into a platform with every information gathered in one place aka google? 01:41 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i think u can learn just as well from the electronic version of the same books (.pdf) 01:42 <+Learath2> Ofc you can use a pdf. Another way to put what I'm saying is that, there is a huge lack of resources, especially quality ones w.r.t. C 01:42 <+bridge_> [ddnet] yeah, people will be on their goal who takes time and pressure on themselfs 01:42 <+Learath2> You can learn some kind of C from tutorials. But most of them are riddled with errors and even if you go off of resources that are correct, it's likely you will run into undefined behaviour 01:44 <+Learath2> Which is not trivial to diagnose at all, as you'd know if you'd seen some of the examples in that article on the llvm blog or maybe even experienced yourself 01:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i mean not all tutorials stand for one meaning, different ones exist for a reason, you just need to find which one is for you to start 01:44 <+Learath2> But I digress, I'm talking to a wall because @Ryozuki just skipped town after calling me a child 01:44 <+bridge_> [ddnet] he always does :greenthing: 01:45 <+bridge_> [ddnet] 🧱 a wall so funny 01:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] you can learn about ub without the need of a fcking book 01:46 <+Learath2> @Cellegen I'd agree for any other language out there. With C and C++ it is just very tricky to get right. There is a popular tutorial series by Zed Shaw e.g. Learn C The Hard Way 01:46 <+bridge_> [ddnet] your the one with the big fat ego to think ur way of learning is the only proper 01:47 <+Learath2> The guys tutorial is full of issues that he refuses to fix. 01:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] but you have always been like this 01:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] x thing is the only good one 01:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] countless times 01:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] no point in arguing 01:47 <+Learath2> I already acknowledged that exceptions do exist @Ryozuki you claim to have learned C fine. 01:47 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i mean i wont discuss people who recommend things people want 01:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] idk whats wrong with that 01:48 <+Learath2> I'm just saying it's not the experience many people have with learning C 01:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] maybe the flex but besides that 01:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] i didnt make this just with C 01:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] with all the languages 01:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] its my way of doing things 01:48 <+bridge_> [ddnet] and it works rly well for me 01:48 <+Learath2> With any other language, just go ahead and learn however you want, I wouldn't even argue 01:49 <+Learath2> All the more power to you @Ryozuki 01:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ryo, what advices would you recommend? 01:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] idk apparently im the exception here u should do whathever 01:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] im rly bad at explaining myself so good luck 01:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thx for the advise 01:49 <+bridge_> [ddnet] thx for the advice 01:51 <+Learath2> You are especially mean today 02:13 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @jao for the record, I'm not drunk 10:36 <+bridge_> [ddnet] hi , how can i insert failed_sql into database? 10:50 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Just run the file as sql 10:59 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Learath2 ERROR 1064 (42000) at line 2840 in file: 'failed_sql.sql': You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MariaDB server version for the right syntax to use near '%s_race(Map, Name, Timestamp, Time, Server, cp1, cp2, cp3, cp4, cp5, cp6, cp7, c' at line 1 10:59 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Hmm, do you not have a prefix configured? 11:00 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Anyways, the %s needs replacing with the prefix 11:01 <+bridge_> [ddnet] ooh, we don't add the prefix in the file anymore I guess 11:05 <+bridge_> [ddnet] Yeah, but actually we could do that 11:19 <+bridge_> [ddnet] @Learath2 thanks , i replaced %s to record and now it working. 19:38 < asdasd> quack net