16:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] ddnet seems to crash when i tabbed out for longer times. i have to kill it with task manager 16:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] If I often step out of the map editor (desktop) my mouse cursor disappears. Is this already fixed? (I think im on ver. 11.5) 18:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] what happened with the new sdl exe? If i try to copy it to ath client, i dont have sound anymore xd. 18:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] what happened with the new sdl? If i try to copy it to ath client, i dont have sound anymore xd. 18:33 <+bridge> [ddnet] what happened with the new sdl file? If i try to copy it to ath client, i dont have sound anymore xd. 21:22 <+bridge> [ddnet] yeah, we had to change something for sound in the code: https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/commit/d9d3ed783ee70cbd5afa05d1d09411f330b23b39 22:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] I get a completely black screen on mac os :/ 22:20 <+bridge> [ddnet] <♪♫> there's a recently closed issue about that, related to borderless 23:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] they should just starting fixing their mess. SDL has to be as simple as that you want borderless and it's borderless, if you don't care about DPI scaling, no DPI scaling, and not makros in our code that split code for the different OSs. 23:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] 23:07 <+bridge> [ddnet] the backend_sdl.cpp contains too much makros if you ask me 23:30 <+bridge> [ddnet] @deen and can I somehow change that? im noob developer xd 23:39 <+bridge> [ddnet] <♪♫> @Shyzo | Alex you download your client's source code, you add those 3 lines at the same exact place and you compile it, ath has the instructions for that part on github 23:47 <+bridge> [ddnet] eh ok. ill look into that and im going pro developer mode then °!° 23:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] btw, is antiping from ddnet and ath different? I notice differences. I notice differences in the client too though. so probably isnt an antiping thing. still wanna ask though^^ 23:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] ath sucks 23:48 <+bridge> [ddnet] <♪♫> no idea i don't user ath and i don't use antiping ^^ 23:50 <+bridge> [ddnet] he only asks, because he wants to use DDNet and doesnt believe me that it runs just as smooth xD 23:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] use ddnet version 10 23:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] best of both worlds 23:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] ddnet 11 5-6k FPS best 23:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] not laggy like ddnet 10, not a shjtty cheat client like ath 23:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] not laggy like ddnet 11, not a shjtty cheat client like ath 23:51 <+bridge> [ddnet] 11**8 23:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] ddnet 11 = perfect frame times no laggs, no tearing nothing 23:52 <+bridge> [ddnet] not for me 23:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] what kind of lags tho @onby 23:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] more input delay or just spikes? 23:55 <+bridge> [ddnet] fps lag 23:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] noticeably lower fps 23:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] i dont remember exactly when but even deen confirmed that he noticed the difference 23:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] in this discord 23:56 <+bridge> [ddnet] when ddnet was in debug mode 23:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] user experience is the most important thing so i'd like to sort that out