09:30 <@deen> !config
09:30 <@Nimda> Usage: !config <trigger> [<name>] [<value>]
09:31 <@deen> !config ddnetstatus enabled no
09:31 <@Nimda> This plugin doesn't exist.
09:31 <@deen> !config ddnetmaprelease enabled no
09:31 <@Nimda> Config variable enabled for plugin DDNetMapRelease has been set to no for channel #ddnet on quakenet.
12:57 <+bridge> [ddnet] <n000b> Well I guess we don't need to see the releases here😮
13:12 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ravie> I just updated the client and the game ran at 4 fps, it was fixed by downgrading the client again, but I thought I'd let you Devs know anyway
13:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> mhhh
13:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> from what version to which version?
13:15 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ravie> Was 10.8.6 pressed update in the client and it updated to the newest version
13:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> try turning opengl3 on or off, depending on what it was before
13:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ravie> one minute, need to install 11.0.3 again
13:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ravie> With opengl on the game doesn't run at all
13:21 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ravie> I have to set gfx_opengl3 to 0 in settings_ddnet to get it to run again
14:27 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> hmm
15:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> If you want to see releases, go on discord, or use a news reader: https://ddnet.tw/releases/feed/
15:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> You can even use some tool to convert feeds to emails if that's more convenient:
15:10 <+bridge> [ddnet] <deen> Or fix the nimda plugin 😉
17:13 <+bridge> [ddnet] <n000b> Nah we don't need that fix i gues
19:31 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> https://i.redd.it/b8p0ikpwpdh01.png
19:31 <@deen> saw that too
19:32 <+bridge> [ddnet] <abcqwerty> lol
19:32 <@deen> I mean you can take that as the opportunity to figure out how to fight back against different kinds of attacks and then apply to some anti-ddos company. but that doesn't really help us^^
19:34 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> for the german-speaking community: http://www.stupidedia.org/stupi/DDNet
19:34 <@deen> stupidedia is shutting down btw
19:35 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> oh, didn't know
19:35 <@deen> DoNe wrote the article 3 years ago
19:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> it says that they're changing their software and concept
19:37 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> but still remain up
19:37 <@deen> scroll down
19:38 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> ah, thanks
19:38 <@deen> So DDNet is disappearing from all wikis, first DDNet wiki, now stupidedia
19:40 <@deen> My non-programming related post is doing ok on HN, I'm surprised
19:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> even though you forgot to call your voting ring. ts ts
19:41 <+bridge> [ddnet] <heinrich5991> deen: my ddnet 11.0.3 client tells me "DDNet 10.8.6 is out! Update now"
19:41 <@deen> heinrich5991: wrong update server
19:41 <@deen> weird
19:42 <@deen> Actually my post was getting pushed down on HN thanks to anti-flamewar detection (more comments than votes), but a mod pushed it back up
19:44 <@deen> -anti
19:46 <@heinrich5991> deen: heh. I also cycle to uni every day :)
19:46 <@deen> I used to do it once a week, but it was ~45 km each way, so a bit exhausting
19:47 <@heinrich5991> yea, it's more like 15-20min for me
19:47 <@heinrich5991> public transport is also 15min, but only once every 20min
19:47 <@heinrich5991> I end up getting to uni faster than if I played the waiting time lottery
19:48 <@deen> heh
19:50 <@heinrich5991> okay, but your cycle path looks way nicer :D
19:51 <@heinrich5991> I'm cycling through streets
19:51 <@deen> also, umap is pretty easy to use, never made a custom map before
20:22 <@heinrich5991> TIL going through red lights as a pedestrian isn't forbidden in germany, if the situation permits it
20:24 <@deen> haha, good to know but I did that anyway
21:25 <+fstd> heinrich5991: source?
21:25 <+fstd> https://www.bussgeldkatalog.org/fussgaenger/ says it can cost you (gasp) 5 euromonies
21:25 <+fstd> that said, who cares about red lights ;)
21:26 <+fstd> ("if the situation permits it" sounds awfully vague, too)
21:27 <@heinrich5991> mhh
21:27 <@heinrich5991> empty street for example
21:27 <@heinrich5991> https://dejure.org/gesetze/StVO/25.html
21:27 <@heinrich5991> enn die Verkehrsdichte, Fahrgeschwindigkeit, Sichtverhältnisse oder der Verkehrsablauf es erfordern, ist eine Fahrbahn nur an Kreuzungen oder Einmündungen, an Lichtzeichenanlagen innerhalb von Markierungen, an Fußgängerquerungshilfen oder auf Fußgängerüberwegen (Zeichen 293) zu überschreiten
21:28 <@heinrich5991> mh..
21:28 <@heinrich5991> it sounded differently when I first read it
21:30 <+Learath2> well if the street is empty, there is no policeperson to fine you :P
21:31 <+fstd> the police have proxies called 'red light cameras' tho :s
21:32 <+fstd> (for cars anyway)
21:32 <+Learath2> doubt they watch them for pedestrians crossing
21:32 <@deen> That reminds me, I remember Lady Saavik always being pissed at having had to pay two fines for jaywalking in Poland :D
21:33 <+fstd> Learath2: pedestrians can't trigger them to begin with
21:33 <+fstd> (but it prevents me, sometimes, from ignoring a red light with my car when it'd obviously be safe)
21:34 <+fstd> like, when literally nobody is around, like at night
21:34 <+Learath2> in turkey they flash all lights yellow after 2am, means cross at your own discretion
21:35 <+fstd> in germany they do that with some lights, but it doesn't mean "cross at your own discretion", that would be totally un-german
21:35 <+fstd> instead it makes the next lower level set of rules take effect (which the traffic lights normally override)
21:36 <@heinrich5991> :D @ that would be totally un-german
21:36 <+Learath2> the phrase "lower level set of rules" would short circuit an average turkishpersons brain, so they just say "cross at your own discretion, don't be a cunt, don't kill anyone"
21:37 <+fstd> actually i'm wrong though, what i said refers to traffic lights that are completely off
21:37 <@heinrich5991> traffic lights are completely off in the direction that has right of way
21:37 <@heinrich5991> in the other direction they're blinking yellow
21:37 <+fstd> yellow blinking means they're kinda sorta off, but the road that sees the blinking (only 2 out of 4 lights will blink) has to yield
21:38 <+Learath2> I think if you look at the actual laws tho, flashing yellow is just becareful
21:38 <+fstd> yep that
21:38 <@heinrich5991> but on pedestrian crossings they still blink yellow at night
21:38 <@heinrich5991> even though cars have right of way AFAIK
21:38 <@heinrich5991> like traffic lights for cars that are solely for a pedestrian crossing, not some T-intersection or intersection
21:39 <@heinrich5991> rm command still runnnign
21:39 <@heinrich5991> but it still hasn't hit me what is wrong with it
21:39 <@heinrich5991> still running
21:40 <@heinrich5991> waah
21:40 <@heinrich5991> ah done
21:40 <@heinrich5991> mh.. nothing looks off
21:42 <+fstd> this is why i like ^T
21:42 <+fstd> aka SIGINFO
21:44 <@heinrich5991> you know what distinguishes SIGINFO from SIGUSR1? :)
21:44 <+fstd> yes
21:45 <+Learath2> I don't
21:45 <@heinrich5991> SIGUSR1 terminates the program if it doesn't handle the signal
21:45 <@heinrich5991> SIGINFO doesn't
21:45 <+Learath2> TIL
21:45 <@heinrich5991> but that's about the only difference
21:45 <+fstd> lol
21:46 <@heinrich5991> it's responsible for not being able to reliably be able to send SIGUSR1 to programs
21:46 <+fstd> process groups*
21:46 <+fstd> and that's a *huge* difference
21:46 <+fstd> another big difference is that SIGINFO's purpose is clear, while SIGUSR1 in no way means "dump info to stderr"
21:47 <@heinrich5991> yes, but that could be mitigated
21:47 <@heinrich5991> i.e. define SIGINFO=SIGUSR1
21:47 <+fstd> by adapting a lot of programs in case they have a spare signal to use
21:47 <+fstd> not really feasible
21:47 <+fstd> i mean it would work for dd, i guess
21:47 <+Learath2> not really a good idea imho, programs could be using both currently
21:48 <+fstd> fetchmail however would try and pull mail then
21:48 <+fstd> init/systemd would do god knows what
21:48 <+fstd> programs that use SIGUSR1 and SIGUSR2 are in trouble generally
21:48 <+fstd> yeah and what Learath2 said too
21:48 <+Learath2> systemd would prolly handle it just fine, it'll upload the signal and the current state to the cloud and the neural network will figure out what you want
21:49 <+fstd> ^^
21:50 <@heinrich5991> Fahrverkehr in einem verkehrsberuhigten Bereich unnötig behindert    5 €
21:50 <@heinrich5991> heh
22:02 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> ? xd
22:03 <+bridge> [ddnet] <ChillerDragon> english plz
22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> yes pls :(
22:11 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> some people actually read those convos ^^
22:11 <+fstd> sorry, this is now a german kanal.
22:12 <+Learath2> if you'd actually read it you'd come to the conclusion that the last german line was something along the lines of "jaywalking = 5e"
22:12 <+Learath2> :P
22:12 <+Ryozuki> also it looks like the ö is parsed wrong by the irc-link
22:12 <+Ryozuki> or idk what it is
22:14 <+bridge> [ddnet] <timakro> "die Artikelproduktion und -Qualität der letzten Monate sagt eigentlich alles" from Stupidedia's last message, now i feel guilty xD
22:16 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> haha
22:17 <+bridge> [ddnet] <Ryozuki> "the article production and quality of the last months actually says it all "
22:30 <@heinrich5991> Autobahn betreten oder überschritten    10 €
22:32 <@heinrich5991> Sollte er sich im Rahmen der Straßenverkehrsordnung für Fußgänger für die Fahrbahn entscheiden, darf er nur am rechten Fahrbahnrand gehen. Beim Abbiegen nach links ist zu beachten, dass sich der Fußverkehr nicht links einordnen darf.
22:37 <+fstd> not sure if i ever mentioned it, but i rode a bicycle, drunk, at night, without lights, on the autobahn once... it's only ~5 km and hell of a shortcut compared with the regular route and that stretch tends to be super empty at night, so it seemed like a good idea
22:37 <+fstd> anyway it wasn't empty enough, someone did call the cops on me and i only barely and with luck managed to escape
22:38 <+fstd> wonder what *that* would have cost me...
22:38 <+fstd> apart from my license
22:43 <+fstd> [1394060.164169] Out of memory: Kill process 1694 (factorio) score 300 or sacrifice child
22:43 <+fstd> [1394060.164177] Killed process 1694 (factorio) total-vm:4530344kB, anon-rss:1431628kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:260720kB
22:43 <+fstd> WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK
22:44 <+fstd> fucking lunix
22:44 <+fstd> the real offender here was firefox
22:44 <+fstd> but YES why not just kill factorio instead
22:47 <@heinrich5991> factorio has autosave, hopefully it wasn't so far back
22:47 <+fstd> yes, it'll be fine
22:48 <+fstd> doesn't make it any better though
22:49 <+fstd> i mean i'd be fine if it terminated on its own behalf, or even segfaulted
22:49 <+fstd> but preemtively killing the wrong process?
22:49 <+fstd> i mean factorio was literally idle for the last 30 minutes, and i was just zooming into google maps (checking into whether my 5km estimate was accurate)
22:49 <+fstd> when everything froze for like a minute
22:50 <+fstd> and then factorio gets rekt instead of firefox...