08:46 < ddnet-commits> [ddnet] def- pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vyPh3 08:46 < ddnet-commits> ddnet/master 7f407aa Dennis Felsing: Remove useless comment 18:55 < Ryozuki> why all ddnet issues look boring to do :/ 18:56 < necropotame> Because the funny ones will be rejected :D :oy-style: 18:56 < Ryozuki> xD 18:56 < Ryozuki> btw isn't this https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/478 fixed? 18:57 < necropotame> Arabic is still not working, but it's not related to SDL 19:00 < Ryozuki> " necropotame commented 5 days ago@Learath2, you know that in C++, one can just put the entire code in one line, and save a lot of break lines? :P :troll:" 19:00 < Ryozuki> http://www.ioccc.org/2015/endoh1/prog.c 19:00 < Ryozuki> xD 19:00 < Ryozuki> psss (https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/657) 19:08 <@heinrich5991> Ryozuki: because the boring ones are the ones which remain 19:08 <@heinrich5991> the funny ones get fixed :) 19:08 <@heinrich5991> Ryozuki: you haven't ocmmented in there yet 19:10 < Ryozuki> ocmmented? 19:11 <@heinrich5991> commented 19:11 < Ryozuki> where i should comment? :o 19:12 < Ryozuki> clang-format uses allman braces? 19:12 < Ryozuki> i like allman braces 19:30 < Mekrioz> can some1 come on Light Grey DDrace and Ban Catholic for blocking? 19:33 < Mekrioz> nvm he left. 19:44 < necropotame> DDNet discord server is garbage 19:44 < Ryozuki> yep 20:05 < Learath2> how can i gather some pitchforks to kill allman style braces? 20:05 < Ryozuki> don't :( 20:08 < Learath2> K&R style bjarnes variant is obviously superior in every sense 20:08 < Ryozuki> no 20:08 < Ryozuki> i hate it 20:08 <@heinrich5991> obviously :) 20:08 <@heinrich5991> I don't care, but let's just stick to the one of the code base 20:08 < Ryozuki> yeah :D 20:08 <@heinrich5991> I edited code bases with both 20:09 < Learath2> thus i need some pitchforks 20:09 < Learath2> you hate it is not a great argument 20:09 < Ryozuki> c: 20:09 < Ryozuki> for me K&r it's so unclear 20:10 < Learath2> for me allman style is so unclear 20:10 < Learath2> single statement in an if block looks orphaned every time i see it 20:11 <@heinrich5991> Learath2: btw, if doing another brace style, I would propose "no blockless if, while, do while(!), etc." 20:11 < Ryozuki> nono, stay as it is 20:11 < Learath2> why are you all so against no blockless if? 20:11 < Learath2> s/no// 20:12 <@heinrich5991> because you can always insert statements that way :) 20:12 < Learath2> i mean if you are coding while drunk its your fault, not like single statement ifs are hard to identify by the corner of your eye from 60 miles away 20:12 < Ryozuki> xD 20:13 < Ryozuki> i think it's a matter of taste 20:13 < Ryozuki> or what u work well with 20:13 < Learath2> no its wastefulness 20:14 <@heinrich5991> poor bytes (and screen space) getting hurt 20:14 < Learath2> the industry blessed you with diskspace now you fill up your source files 20:14 <@heinrich5991> duh, disk space is not an argument 20:14 < Ryozuki> xD 20:14 <@heinrich5991> screen space might be 20:14 < Learath2> this is the same mentality that makes games that use 13gb ram 20:14 <@heinrich5991> LOL no 20:14 < Ryozuki> no 20:14 < Learath2> its like im running a CAD program wtf 20:14 < Learath2> lol yes 20:15 < Learath2> disk space is not argument now because you get this shiny newfound 6zettabyte drives 20:15 <@heinrich5991> no 20:15 <@heinrich5991> disk space wasn't an argument back then 20:15 <@heinrich5991> not for this kind of change in style of source code 20:16 <@heinrich5991> maybe for punch cards 20:16 <@heinrich5991> images and the like might actually take up space 20:16 <@heinrich5991> but bytes for the extra line and tab in source code? 20:16 < Learath2> point is allman style is wasteful 20:17 <@heinrich5991> not of disk space, that's just ridiculous 20:17 < Learath2> sure its idiotproof but who wants idiots coding anyways 20:17 < Ryozuki> you can allways uglify ur code 20:17 < Ryozuki> always* 20:17 < Learath2> ill withdraw that argument becaue it seems to distract you 20:17 <@heinrich5991> good :) 20:17 <@heinrich5991> Learath2: people make mistakes, I do too. I like it if most errors are prevented without even thinking about them 20:17 < Learath2> i always code in proper K&R style first then style my code for pull requests 20:18 < Learath2> heinrich5991: i hate it if errors are prevented without thinking about them given thinking is essential to coding and all 20:19 <@heinrich5991> but if a category of errors can be excluded, then it frees your mind up to think about other stuff 20:19 < Learath2> are you actually saying that you can not identify a blockless if while wasted? 20:20 < Learath2> I'm pretty sure you identify them better then me given your crusade against them 20:20 < Ryozuki> i like blockless ifs too 20:20 <@heinrich5991> I'm saying that if a code style can make it easier to code, then I'll take it 20:20 < Ryozuki> allman + blockless 20:20 <@deen> who cares about code style? just stay with the current one 20:20 <@heinrich5991> yes 20:21 <@heinrich5991> ^w? 20:22 < Learath2> can't believe i got beaten by "Keep the status quo because (nullptr)" again 20:22 < Learath2> it happened at the debate tournament in prague aswell 20:23 * Learath2 was not even arguing to change ddnet's coding style 20:23 * heinrich5991 thought so too, which was the reason for the quick yes 20:23 <@heinrich5991> "yes" 20:24 <@heinrich5991> yes, but that's not what we're talking about 20:25 * Ryozuki test? 20:25 < Ryozuki> :o 20:30 <@deen> I just glanced over and saw something about brackets and then disk space :D 20:32 < Learath2> http://paste.pr0.tips/Zr?c this illustrates the only place i find allman braces useful and thats 8 length tabstops 20:32 < Learath2> the huge tabstops make code instantly unreadable for me 20:35 < Ryozuki> "Formatting styles is like religion, there are always those that disagree. No matter how much evidence is shown that one is better than the other, people will not accept it." 20:35 < Ryozuki> xD 20:37 < Learath2> oh maybe if i make a catchy looking website @ www.savethelines.com and declare a day for lines 20:38 < Learath2> or hmm stop abusing your enter key day 20:59 < Learath2> just noticed the amount of mods we have on GER 21:03 <@heinrich5991> notice the lack of mods on other servers 21:29 < necropotame> Oh, I'm happy to have missed the discussion 21:29 < necropotame> Could be cool to have that much energy to review and comment PR :3 22:45 < laxadedi> I don't really care that much about bracket style, but the 8 spaces indentation is really killing me 22:45 < laxadedi> Haven't seen that much indentation anywhere else 22:56 < necropotame> I don't understand this indentation things. It's not a personal choice that everyone can set in the IDE since the code use tabulations?