00:50 < Maple> by cheating i mean that they used no teams and put players at specific spots to save time
00:50 < Maple> isnt really cheating but isnt a legit race
00:50 <@deen> Maple: ah, but that's why ddnet has separate team ranks
00:51 <@deen> every single map can be cheated like that without team
00:51 < Maple> still doesnt feel worthy of HoF
00:51 <@deen> is it in the HoF?
00:51 < Maple> nah
00:51 <@deen> and it won't be
00:51 < Maple> why not
00:51 <@deen> for team maps you need to be #1 in team ranks
00:51 < Maple> we are
00:51 < Maple> in general rank we arent
00:51 <@deen> i mean their race won't be in HoF
00:52 <@deen> don't know about yours :P
00:52 < Maple> oh
00:52 <@deen> I remember there was a group of people who did the same thing and actually submitted that to the Hall of Fame
00:54 < Maple> doesnt do a very impressive video
00:56 <@deen> it was funny to watch
01:04 < Maple> oh
01:04 < Maple> maybe
01:04 < Maple> just maybe
01:04 < Maple> another video run section
01:04 < Maple> not for the best
01:04 < Maple> but maybe with funny things
01:04 < Maple> or interesting things
01:04 < Maple> or fails
01:04 < Maple> i have a run where we hammerfly and touch freeze, supposed to die
01:05 < Maple> but we land one on eachother and succeed
01:05 <@deen> http://forum.ddnet.tw/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4
04:51 < Nimda> DDNet CHN went down!
04:52 < Nimda> DDNet CHN went back online!
05:25 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went down!
05:26 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went back online!
06:09 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went down!
06:10 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went back online!
06:19 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went down!
06:20 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went back online!
06:32 < Nimda> DDNet CHN went down!
06:33 < Nimda> DDNet CHN went back online!
06:47 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went down!
06:48 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went back online!
07:41 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went down!
07:42 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went back online!
08:12 < laxa> deen: is there a way to know when the best rank of a player on a map was made ? /times ?
08:17 < laxa> New hall of fame : at http://youtu.be/v_1WScNETH4
08:17 < Nimda> [YouTube] Title: [DDNet] Spallok - levi | Rating: 0.00/5.00 | Views: 1
09:02 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went down!
09:03 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went back online!
10:11 < laxa_work> For all : ovh is giving away 50 000 domain name for 1 year if it ends with .ovh !
10:22 < pause> I'd rather hand type an IPV6 than usinga crappy .ovh domain
10:59 <@deen> laxa: /times name
10:59 <@deen> or just check the http://ddnet.tw/ranks/novice/ site and hover the record
12:11 < Nimda> Short Flight by Welf just released on moderate at 2014-10-02 12:10
12:54 < KinG_> hi all
12:54 < KinG_> deen:  u here?
12:55 <@deen> hi
12:56 < KinG_> hi
12:56 < KinG_> deen:  can u give me the link for ddnet maps? :)
12:57 <@deen> http://github.com/def-/ddnet-maps
12:57 <@deen> this?
12:57 <@deen> it's auto-updated daily
12:57 < KinG_> i know this but
12:57 < KinG_> i need direct link
12:57 <@deen> https://github.com/def-/ddnet-maps/archive/master.zip
12:57 < KinG_> oh thanks
13:00 <@deen> afk
13:34 <@deen> back
13:35 <@deen> hi BeaR 
13:35 <@deen> hi Maple
13:35 < BeaR> hey (:
13:35 < Maple> yo
13:35 < BeaR> Just saw that you have an irc channel ^^
13:36 <@deen> maybe we should feature it more prominently, but no idea where
13:36 <@deen> BeaR: did you notice that you're a DDNet moderator?
13:36 < BeaR> yeah, I've seen the pm, thx (:
13:48 < laxa_work> !peak
13:48 < Nimda> Current channel peak for #ddnet: 18 users online at 2014-09-28 19:08:18 (3 days, 18 hours, 39 minutes and 47 seconds ago)
13:50 < Savander> deen: idea.. maybe on home page, below "Download DDraceNetwork Client & Server 5.1 for Windows" or beside, add something like "Join to our IRC Channel: #ddnet"
13:50 < Savander> hmm?:)
13:51 < heinrich5991> !help
13:51 < heinrich5991> !ddnetpeak
13:51 < Nimda> Current players on DDNet : 117
13:51 < Nimda> Current DDNet peak : 532 users online at 2014-09-28 20:14:41
13:53 <@deen> !twp nameless tee
13:53 < Nimda> nameless tee is currently playing blmapV5 on server : ! [BLOCKER 64p] r0x.fr S3.
13:53 < Nimda> nameless tee is currently playing Aip-Gores on server : [AfriGamer] DDRace : Gores 1.
13:53 < Nimda> nameless tee is currently playing ctf5 on server : ! Vanilla CTF5 - [aze].
13:53 < Nimda> nameless tee is currently playing ctf5 on server : [TuxFamily] CTF.
13:53 < Nimda> nameless tee is currently playing Pados 2 on server : Persian Pro EasyDD.
13:56 < heinrich5991> !twp deen
13:56 < Nimda> deen is currently playing Short Flight on server : DDNet GER - Moderate [DDraceNetwork].
13:56 < heinrich5991> aha!
14:04 <@deen> Savander: that's too prominent :P
14:05 < Savander> why?
14:05 < Savander> it should..
14:05 < KinG_> deen:  want to play a novice map? ^^
14:06 < Savander> to contact page, few people look..
14:06 < Savander> so it should be on home pag
14:06 < Savander> so it should be on home page
14:07 < KinG_> Savander:  u know php?
14:09 < KinG_> anyone here?^^
14:09 < Savander> KinG_: hmm?
14:09 < KinG_> Savander:  u know php?i mean how to work with?
14:10 < Savander> but what you want do?:P
14:10 < laxa_work> KinG_: I know php.
14:10 < KinG_> oh
14:11 < KinG_> i need a module for dle that is placed in ucp and can generate subset links
14:11 < KinG_> can any of u help?
14:11 < laxa_work> No.
14:11 < KinG_> :(
14:13 < KinG_> laxa_work:  u know someone that can help me?
14:13 < laxa_work> google :[
14:13 < KinG_> i found nothing:|
14:13 < laxa_work> SO
14:13 < laxa_work> SO stands for Stack Overflow
14:14 < KinG_> wut?!:D
14:14 < laxa_work> http://stackoverflow.com/
14:15 < KinG_> what should i do here?!
14:15 < laxa_work> Post about your problem ?
14:15 < KinG_> ask a question?
14:15 < KinG_> oh
14:15 < KinG_> ok thanks
14:22 < KinG_> laxa_work:  i just wrote a question but can't post it why? ^^
14:23 < laxa_work> Read what it says ?
14:23 < KinG_> yes
14:24 < KinG_> but i corected my mistakes and i can't post again
14:24 < laxa_work> you need to edit your first post then if you posted I think
14:24 < laxa_work> I only posted once on stack overfly
14:24 < laxa_work> overflow
14:24 < KinG_> i couldn't post
14:24 < laxa_work> They must say to you what's wrong
15:04 < pause> laxa_work: laxou !
15:08 < KinG_> deen:  the time limit for the xxl block server is over change the rcon pass to th one u gave me for ddnet but this one full access :)
15:09 < KinG_> deen:  u there?
15:09 < laxa_work> pause: mofo !
15:11 <@deen> KinG_: huh?
15:11 < KinG_> deen:  just change the rcon password of server to ddnet's and remove the server password :)
15:14 < KinG_> thanks deen 
15:15 <@deen> maybe we should just stop DDNet Persian
15:15 < KinG_> why?
15:15 <@deen> It's more work than all the other servers and always 0 players
15:15 <@deen> because it lags
15:16 < KinG_> from next month i'll cahnge vps(no laggs) and persian pro will go down trust me he is running out of money
15:16 < KinG_> deen:  u gave me moderator access i need full acess in xxl server
15:16 < KinG_> change*
15:46 < KinG_> thanks deen  i gtg bye all
17:01 < CookieMichal> Hai ho :D
17:02 < CookieMichal> I'm doing data backup and I will install Windows 10 :D
17:07 <@deen> hi CookieMichal 
17:10 < CookieMichal> Hey deen :3
17:11 < shahan> ohi all
17:11 < CookieMichal> Hello :D
17:11 < shahan> i have a question about ddnet tournaments
17:12 < shahan> this sunday i watched one of them, and I noticed broadcast messages about the players
17:12 < shahan> something like online commentation 
17:13 < shahan> who does it? 
17:13 < CookieMichal> deen
17:13 < CookieMichal> he's admin
17:13 < CookieMichal> and he watches players and comment
17:14 < shahan> and he does it on all ddnet servers at one moment?
17:15 < CookieMichal> I think he uses script to that
17:15 < CookieMichal> He just type message and it appears on each server
17:16 < CookieMichal> https://github.com/def-/ddnet-scripts/ check this
17:21 <@deen> hi
17:22 <@deen> yes, every server has an input fifo
17:22 <@deen> and this script just writes into them all at once: https://github.com/def-/ddnet-scripts/blob/master/servers/bc.py
17:24 < shahan> thanks for answer
17:25 < shahan> deen: do you use and tools for watching servers too?
17:26 < shahan> for example, if the second player takes the race, the broadcast message appears
17:26 <@deen> i just have 10 clients open
17:26 < shahan> that's the answer I was afraid of :(
17:26 <@deen> the important part is to set gfx_backgroundrender to 0, then I have no problems with many clients
17:27 < shahan> ah, ok
17:27 <@deen> I tried to make a tournament spectating client that connects you to all servers, but a few bugs remained and it seemed like a lot of work to get right: https://github.com/def-/ddnet/tree/tournament-spec
17:28 < shahan> quite a nice idea
17:29 < shahan> btw, there is only german live stream?
17:30 <@deen> Yes. I think we could get many more viewers with an English one but noone has done one yet
17:30 < shahan> yes, that's strange
17:31 < shahan> I can do only russian, because my english speaking skills are horrible^^
17:32 < shahan> And the last thing I wanted to talk about: dummy hammerfly
17:33 < shahan> some people told me, that it's quite hard to teach dummy hammerfly
17:34 < shahan> I decided to teach dummy to hit player after the 'touch'
17:34 <@deen> we have dummy hammerfly
17:35 < shahan> and some people told me, that you've also though about it
17:35 <@deen> in the ddnet client
17:35 < shahan> but implemented a timer
17:35 <@deen> it just hammers in a fixed interval, works well enough
17:35 <@deen> with touch you would need to factor in the ping
17:36 < shahan> ah, this problem is only client side
17:36 < shahan> i did it with serverside bot
17:36 <@deen> Yeah, we have clientside dummies
17:36 <@deen> Aah, you're the developer of iDDRace
17:37 < shahan> yeah, right
17:37 < shahan> and since ddnet is out, many people ask me to implement some ddnet features, some game tiles
17:38 < shahan> i'm thinking about merging idd to ddnet
17:39 <@deen>  /r and serverside dummy?
17:40 < shahan> yes
17:41 < shahan> are you also againist /r?
17:41 <@deen> So you want to add these features to ddnet or put remerge ddnet into iddrace?
17:42 <@deen> i don't know if serverside dummies are necessary, I've never played with them
17:42 <@deen> Personally I'm against /r and I believe it should stay disabled on all official DDNet servers
17:42 <@deen> but we could still add it to the mod and just disable it for official servers
17:43 <@deen> Some had the idea to enable /r for novice maps, but we'd need to have a discussion with the community about that first
17:43 < shahan>  /r is an awesome oppurtunity to play hard ddrace maps quickly
17:44 < shahan> and dummies are really great for studing hammer tricks
17:45 <@deen> i never played with /r. i always loved about ddrace that it's hard and you need to work together and think to survive
17:45 < shahan> if you will add dummies to ddnet, it will cause many bugs, probably crash bugs
17:46 <@deen> i think the client side dummy is good enough
17:46 < shahan> on ddrace64 it caused some funny bugs such as controlling another player as a dummy
17:46 <@deen> haha, we had bugs like that too with some new features
17:46 < shahan> did you base ddnet on eeeee's ddrace64 ?
17:47 <@deen> it's based on the original ddrace
17:47 <@deen> but at some point i decided to get the 0.6.2 changes in, so i just diffed and applied by hand
17:47 <@deen> for 64 player support i did the same, by hand
17:53 < heinrich5991> hello shahan!
17:53 < heinrich5991> you think /r should be added?
17:54 < shahan> hello, heinrich5991 
17:54 < heinrich5991> long time no see btw
17:54 < shahan> yea, that's because I had windows 8.1 :C
17:54 < shahan> lagging shit, actually
17:55 < shahan> I had teeworlds hanging on a random time
17:55 <@deen> I know the Persian Pro guys merged /r into ddnet
17:55 < shahan> so i didn't played ddrace for 6 months
17:55 < shahan> i'm not againist /r at all, and not for it
17:55 < heinrich5991> ah
17:56 <@deen> Now noone wants to play ddnet maps without /r anymore in Iran
17:56 <@deen> no one*
17:56 < shahan>  /r has many advantages such as solution againist lagg-caused-failes
17:57 < shahan> and for training ofc
17:57 < shahan> the only iddrace tournament was without /r btw :)
17:58 < Nimda> DDNet FRA went down!
17:58 <@deen> and there goes the daily DDoS
17:58 < heinrich5991> I kinda don't like how /r completely removes helping each other
17:58 < shahan> who and why does it?
17:59 <@deen> shahan: no idea, happens all the time
17:59 < Nimda> DDNet FRA went back online!
17:59 < Nimda> DDNet USA went down!
17:59 < Nimda> DDNet RUS went down!
17:59 < Nimda> DDNet CHN went down!
17:59 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went down!
17:59 < heinrich5991> aha
17:59 < shahan> lmao
17:59 < heinrich5991> every day at 18:00?
17:59 < heinrich5991> my /r implementation would require the whole team to be frozen
17:59 <@deen> (the others didn't actually go down, just FRA)
17:59 < heinrich5991> Nimda is on france?
17:59 <@deen> heinrich5991: no, different times
18:00 <@deen> heinrich5991: nope, but the site it uses for information is: http://ddnet.tw/status/
18:00 < Nimda> DDNet USA went back online!
18:00 < Nimda> DDNet RUS went back online!
18:00 < Nimda> DDNet CHN went back online!
18:00 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went back online!
18:00 < heinrich5991> oh nice
18:00 <@deen> heinrich5991: yeah, i have the same problem with /r
18:00 < heinrich5991> botox's server tool
18:00 <@deen> indeed
18:01 <@deen> i should probably send him a few fixes
18:01 <@deen> because it didn't work with flaky connections
18:02 < shahan> it's a good idea
18:02 < shahan> i'm about /r for the whole team
18:02 <@deen> what does "whole team" mean when most play in team 0?
18:03 < heinrich5991> nothing
18:03 < heinrich5991> :)
18:03 < heinrich5991> maybe
18:03 < heinrich5991> all players that have interacted with you in the last minute
18:03 < shahan> team 0 won't have /r then :P
18:03 <@deen> Also, I think everyone who has a lot of ranks on http://ddnet.tw/ranks/ will be mad that they didn't have /r back then
18:03 < heinrich5991> . /r would make ranks go away
18:03 < heinrich5991> if you /r once e.g.
18:03 < shahan> lol
18:04 < shahan> right
18:04 < shahan> hey deen, have you seen iddrace trailer? https://www.google.ru/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB8QtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DBWH4YPXzFBk&ei=aXYtVK2iJuXnyQPJ84L4BQ&usg=AFQjCNG_hFD9KLXY7VoYfbZKt5lqgDYDjg&sig2=YOJ-wUs3MmsgGwGKOgUSeA&bvm=bv.76477589,d.bGQ
18:04 <@deen> !ddnetpeak
18:04 < Nimda> Current players on DDNet : 245
18:04 < Nimda> Current DDNet peak : 532 users online at 2014-09-28 20:14:41
18:04 < shahan> ops
18:04 < shahan> this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWH4YPXzFBk
18:04 < Nimda> [YouTube] Title: iDDRace Trailer One [eng] | Rating: 5.00/5.00 | Views: 132
18:04 <@deen> nope
18:05 <@deen> it's so dramatic!
18:06 < shahan> yeah, i like it too^^
18:06 <@deen> but you can cheat normal maps with that feature
18:07 < heinrich5991> wow, that trailer is like really good IMO
18:07 < heinrich5991> who did that?
18:07 < shahan> Warch did
18:08 <@deen> We need more artists for ddnet!
18:08 < shahan> he organized many ddrace tournaments btw
18:08 < shahan> probably, you know his maps War4yH?
18:09 <@deen> I don't
18:13 < shahan> ehm
18:13 < shahan> i think everyone remember the time, when on all ddrace servers default broadcast message was "ddm.ucoz.net"
18:14 < shahan> it was community "dummy drag masters"
18:14 < shahan> the leader: 3DA
18:14 < shahan> the guy, who made ddrace
18:15 < shahan> in his community were Warch, FireFry, ZoOm and others :)
18:15 <@deen> I didn't play ddrace back then
18:16 <@deen> afk
18:21 < shahan> btw, I'm on a lecture now :P
18:22 < shahan> on a very very boring language :C
18:22 < shahan> *lecture
18:33 < Nimda> DDNet FRA went down!
18:34 < Nimda> DDNet FRA went back online!
18:34 < Nimda> DDNet USA went down!
18:34 < Nimda> DDNet RUS went down!
18:34 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went down!
18:35 < Nimda> DDNet USA went back online!
18:35 < Nimda> DDNet RUS went back online!
18:35 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went back online!
18:37 < laxa> FRA got ddosed ?
18:38 < laxa> My code worked at the first time \o/, so rare :p
18:40 < shahan> lol
18:40 < shahan> it's time to go home, cya guys
19:18 <@deen> back, yes
19:18 <@deen> laxa: now add that the server ignores the json for a few minutes until after FRA is back
19:18 <@deen> otherwise it looks like this every time
19:19 < laxa> boah, ok
19:19 < laxa> Well, not hard at all in fact :p.
19:21 < laxa> done
19:40 < Nimda> Tvyn by MarvinProductions just released on brutal at 2014-10-02 19:36
19:50 <@deen> !ddnetpeak
19:50 < Nimda> Current players on DDNet : 312
19:50 < Nimda> Current DDNet peak : 532 users online at 2014-09-28 20:14:41
20:02 < Nimda> DDNet GER went down!
20:03 < Nimda> DDNet GER went back online!
20:04 < Nimda> DDNet GER went down!
20:13 <@deen> next ddos
20:26 < laxa> deen: is that normal that half of FRA is offline oO ?
20:28 <@deen> not normal
20:28 <@deen> shouldn't be offline
20:28 <@deen> but there's a ddos incoming right now
20:28 < Nimda> DDNet USA went down!
20:28 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went down!
20:28 <@deen> i see all FRA servers
20:28 < laxa> hm
20:28 < laxa> look what happend
20:29 < laxa> well nevermind
20:29 < laxa> I think I was on GER :(
20:29 < laxa> went to eat, come back -> dead
20:29 <@deen> yeah
20:29 <@deen> GER had ddos and is offline
20:29 <@deen> like always...
20:29 < Nimda> DDNet USA went back online!
20:29 < Nimda> DDNet Chile went back online!
20:29 < laxa> Hum, yesterday I was reading about hetzner
20:29 <@deen> we still have ddos protection for GER promised but no date
20:29 < laxa> they say they only count outgoing traffic as traffic
20:30 < laxa> is it the same for data fabrik ?
20:30 <@deen> but hetzner has no ddos protection
20:30 <@deen> no, both directions count
20:30 < laxa> boah
20:30 <@deen> but traffic doesn't matter, we have more than enough
20:30 < laxa> so ddos really fucks you
20:30 < laxa> oh ok
20:30 <@deen> at least on GER
20:30 <@deen> and even when we went over the "limit" the hoster said it doesn't matter^^
20:30 < laxa> You have 1TB ?
20:30 <@deen> 3 TB
20:30 < laxa> Nice :)
20:31 <@deen> we usually use about 2 TB per month on GER
20:34 < Nimda> DDNet GER went back online!
20:49 < Maple> hi
20:50 < EastByte> good evening
21:33 < Nimda> DDNet CHN went down!
21:34 < Nimda> DDNet CHN went back online!
21:57 <@deen> suspicious DDNet GER fake server: 87.239.38.121:8303
21:57 <@deen> and the guy running it calls himself "DDoS attack"
22:01 < Maple> lol
22:01 < Maple> send him to prison
22:18 < laxa> !trace 87.239.38.121:8303
22:18 < Nimda> Can't trace 87.239.38.121:8303.
22:18 < laxa> !trace 87.239.38.121
22:18 < Nimda> 87.239.38.121's location: Russian Federation
22:19 < laxa> the only server fake I can find right now is : 89.245.37.29:8303